Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Software > Calibre

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-12-2011, 03:39 PM   #46
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
Thanks, Starson.

KISS is now revised except for final polish. I'll post it in this thread tomorrow. I'd like to get some comments on it here, and I was thinking of just leaving it here in this thread for awhile to see what happens before it's made into a sticky. During that time it may need some revisions based on feedback from whoever cares to participate.

But now I've gotta crash.

Edit. Just a thought - maybe it'd be better not to make it a sticky, but maybe make a sticky that points to it? Or just not be a sticky at all. Then I wouldn't have to bother mods re any revision.

Last edited by unboggling; 08-12-2011 at 03:48 PM.
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 08:10 PM   #47
DoctorOhh
US Navy, Retired
DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DoctorOhh's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,861
Karma: 12755553
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Carolina
Device: Nexus 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by unboggling View Post
KISS is now revised except for final polish.
Even though KISS is a well known acronym it might be best to title it simply "Keep it Simple" and leave off the stupid.
DoctorOhh is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 11:30 PM   #48
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
I hear you about leaving off the "Stupid." KISS is such a widely spread, understood concept that I thought no one would take offense. But as we know, I have little tact and am not a good judge of such things. I'd prefer to leave Stupid in the phrase if possible because without it, the punch goes away. Do you really think new users would get offended?
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 11:39 PM   #49
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
So let's test what happens. I'll post it here, leaving the first version (OP) where it is for now. Anyone feel free to comment on it in this thread for the next few days then I'll incorporate revisions as necessary.
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 11:39 PM   #50
chaley
"chaley", not "charley"
chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.chaley ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 5,653
Karma: 1137414
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: France
Device: Many android devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by unboggling View Post
Do you really think new users would get offended?
Someone will, for certain.

A related example: I will not buy any book titled "XXX for Dummies." I don't care if the author considers it humorous. I don't.
chaley is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 11:40 PM   #51
kovidgoyal
creator of calibre
kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kovidgoyal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
kovidgoyal's Avatar
 
Posts: 26,131
Karma: 5381911
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mumbai, India
Device: Various
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaley View Post
A related example: I will not buy any book titled "XXX for Dummies." I don't care if the author considers it humorous. I don't.
Amen.
kovidgoyal is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 11:43 PM   #52
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
---

Link to latest version: Version 0.80, 2011-09-16, Post #243.

---



KISS (version 0.21)


Hello, new users of calibre. Keep It Simple. KISS your calibre use.

After that, everything else equates to gradually learning details of how to use various features and complexities and trying them one by one in small steps. Once I decided to KISS my calibre use I managed to avoid feeling overwhelmed by apparently insurmountable complexities and learning curves. If you feel overwhelmed, don't blame it on calibre or even on yourself, instead KISS things. From a relatively KISSy baseline of calibre use I can move towards any particular complexity in small steps.

I'll probably never use most calibre features or complexities because the software accommodates a range of users from new to very advanced, with many features that meet lots of different user needs for managing eBooks, eBook reader devices, and subscription feeds. I consider myself a calibre beginner and an eBook beginner after seven months. I've barely scratched the surface. I've noticed there is rarely just one "right" or "good" way to accomplish something. And as I learn more, the ways I use calibre gradually evolve.


General Advice.

Tangents. Avoid running off on complex time-consuming tangents that take you away from your main purpose, whatever that is. My main purpose is managing and reading fiction eBooks. Tangent examples: I spent a week writing and revising a script for printing the calibre catalog in Comma Separated Value (CSV) format exported to Excel; now printouts aren't practical anymore. I investigated drivers and front end interfaces to calibre's backend database engine, and I don't even like using Structured Query Language anyway. I developed a whole elaborate tagging schema of my own, spent weeks revising it then trying to comply with it; I don't use it now. I did those things to avoid feeling overwhelmed. Once I settled into my main purpose rather than tangents, I felt overwhelmed until I KISSed things.

Automation. Do a process manually for awhile until you're familiar with it before trying to automate it with scripts, regular expressions, templates, computed columns, or whatever. Attempted automation without prior innate understanding of the manual mechanics usually wastes lots more time than it saves. Not knowing what I was doing but trying to combine different types of automation all at once anyway led to me wasting time and feeling frustrated and overwhelmed. Until I KISSed things.

Raw Books. Keep them. I keep all downloaded files that got copied by calibre when I Added them. I throw them in a "Raw Books" folder on an external drive - I've found myself searching Raw Books numerous times and re-adding books into calibre for one reason or another. They have bad metadata or haven't been format-cleaned but at least they are the original incoming formats; keeping them available is an insurance policy against future need.

Backups. Have backup software automatically backing up your calibre libraries at least hourly to a different disk than the disk your calibre libraries are on. Buy an external drive if necessary. Do it even if you use a file hosting/syncing service such as DropBox, because - what if they go bankrupt or their servers go down or you lose internet connectivity for awhile and you suddenly need the backup right away? I've had to recover from backups three different times after I made various blunders.

Metadata Loss. Don't make any decisions that result in losing metadata until you're more experienced and become aware of potential ramifications. Some small examples that require lots of work later to rectify: Deleting The, An, A from title. Changing Spectra to Bantam so publishers are more consistent. Using only one of the 3 or 4 co-authors of an anthology where the actual editor's name isn't available, rather than taking the trouble to use all the names. I don't recommend KISSing things to the extreme of losing data. I wasted time, having to fix things later.


Some of My Current calibre Work Habits.

This section is not advice, but I offer it because it might give you some ideas you could adapt into your own calibre use. These habits are just some of the ways I've been doing things, and I don't claim that they are good, or best practices, or the KISSiest possible. Though they're KISSier and improved over what they were months ago.

Habits Change. Here are two significant examples. I recently learned on the forum that my habit of converting everything to ePub is a bad practice that results in lower quality eBooks than keeping the original for some formats, and that multiple conversions can engender problems and lose things, similar to photocopying copies of copies. When I learn new things like that, which is an ongoing process, I want to revise my relevant practices. Actually doing that requires consideration of ramifications across all of my calibre libraries, and learning details and testing the revised method, so there is a lag-time for implementation on new books as well as a decision to be made about how much work to do (if any) to bring older books in the library up to par. People much more experienced than me suggested a strategy of not converting anything until just before reading and always keeping the original incoming format in calibre rather than deleting it, because disk space is cheap and technology and the user's conversion skills improve over time. That is opposite to what I've been doing, and the copies of copies problem concerns me because I do a lot of conversions in sequence on one book during cleanup. So I want to change those habits more towards best practices. But haven't yet. I've marked those habits currently needing revision with: ((Habit needs revision)).

Preferred Format. ((Habit needs revision, delay conversions, keep original incoming formats)) I standardize on ePub, convert everything to it, consider it the master copy once it's cleaned up, delete any other formats, and generate whatever formats I need for various devices from that master on the fly as I need them. I load my devices with only a few books at a time, the author or series I'm currently reading, and delete them from device when done. I add a content-rating tag to the book's record in my main library and delete those extra formats. Saves disk space and backup time. My "masters" are ePub rather than mobi even though my primary reading device is Kindle, because I noticed the calibre viewer opens ePubs faster, and calibre conversions seem to complete faster from ePub.

Format Exceptions. ((Habit needs revision, broaden exceptions)) The only exceptions I make to keeping everything ePub are items that don't convert well, such as books with complex graphics, computer language books, textbooks, scientific journal articles with equations, etc - all of which I currently keep out of my calibre libraries. If I had enough of them or subscribed to technical newsfeeds I'd keep a separate Technical Library in which technical items are stored in their native formats, but for now I don't worry about it because being retired I mostly just read fiction.

Templates. I currently use one template only and that one adds series and series index to title for my Kindle.

Regular Expressions (regex). I am only now starting to incorporate search/replace regex into my workflow. The only regex I used for 6 months was calibre-menu-supplied for importing books by filename or putting series info into title on Kindle.

Custom columns. I use only 4 simple custom columns:
#isbn, to see at a glance.
#format, to see at a glance.
#act, for temporary working tags when processing a group of books one way or another.
#notes, for variant titles, pseudonyms, miscellaneous.

Series. I tried multiple series columns but eventually went back to using just the one default series column. When it's important to get several subseries in the right order, I handle multi-level series like this: SeriesUniverseAbbreviation; Series Name (a); SubseriesName. For example for Star Wars, as follows. SW; Clone Wars (b); SubseriesName. It's easy to search on "SW;" while ANDing any other desired keywords. If I use (a)'s, (b)'s, etc correctly, sorts by series come out in chronological order per original pubdate or recommended reading order, whichever I initially preferred it to be. But for most books in most series I don't worry or care about all that, and just use the smallest/lowest level subseries name. Sometimes I use the broadest series name only, put in reading order, such as "Valdemar" but I prefer to do that only when I'm certain of reading order and a series is complete. When a series is up to date, in Tags I add %su which means none missing and up to date through the most recent series member in the library - a particularly useful tag in the case of a multi-author series. For multi-author series I use author name rather than seriesname in author column; if I want to see all series members in a list I do a search or just sort by series.

Metadata Grabs. I grab only pubdate, publisher, isbn, and cover. I always grab cover, even when it has internal cover. I keep only a few sources checked (figuring the more checked, the slower the grab.) Amazon's seemed more consistently accurate with broader item availability than others. I recently added Goodreads as a source, not sure how it compares to Amazon yet. Also by default I use ISBNdb and Open Library. Others I keep unchecked and only use on a case by case basis when necessary. Since several of the genres I read are speculative fiction, when the bulk metadata grab results don't please me I manually use ISFDB to get good covers and ISBN13s where available - it's amazing how much I use that site - and it's much faster that way than one by one in "Edit Metadata Individually" using Download Metadata button.

Format Quality. ((Habit needs revision re cleaning location (Add vs Main) & when to clean.)) I decided early-on that I would only put cleaned-up or clean formats into my main library. So I have two working libraries, Main and Add. Add is for incomings and cleaning up their metadata and formats. When a batch has been cleaned in Add, I save them out with covers and opfs, delete them from Add, add them (using metadata instead of filename) to Main. That forces all the opf, format, and calibredb metadata to be consistent, at least until the next time I change any of that metadata in Main. While working on them in Add, for each book format I examine it once then assign a format quality code. This works for me at format level because I keep only one format per record. And in the future, for any multiple formats, I trust that initial evaluation and don't examine it again. I choose the format with best quality code over the others. I may have a _q3 sitting in Main for 6 months and then a _q4 for that title shows up in Add, so eventually I replace the _q3 format in Main with the _q4 from Add. I rarely use anything except _q0, _q3, or _q4. Doing it this way, worse formats have a chance of getting replaced by better later. That applies to anything that has something wrong with it: Advance Reader Copies, incomings in any format that have no bold/italics (usually caused by it previously having been a text format), problem formats of any kind, all of which are convenient to keep as placeholders.

Format Quality Tags.
_q0 wishlist item. I also use it to color that book record's text red. And for bad formats, saves the trouble of creating an empty book record or empty book placeholder format.
_q1 not used.
_q2 mostly not used, a few cases = more than minor annoyance, not fixable, retained anyway.
_q3 okay, readable with only minor annoyance.
_q4 good, readable with no annoyance.
_q5 excellent, I don't bother with this, except for a few examples.

Format cleanups. ((Habit needs revision re when to clean & fewer conversions.)) I'm not a publisher, distributor, or editor. Any cleanup I do takes valuable time. My goal isn't to make it perfect, but to spend the least amount of time possible to make it "readable by me with as little annoyance as possible." I examine all incomings for format quality, and then tag each with format-quality code. If it looks like I won't be able to clean it up in 5 minutes or less, I scrap it as not worth it or tag it _q0 and add a tag code for the type of format problems it has. I always work on a copy rather than on the main format in calibre. I haven't worried about or cleaned up most Table of Contents (TOCs) because for most books except big omnibuses I don't use or care about TOCs. I do strip out header/footer/page# when I can without causing a lot of split paragraphs, otherwise I scrap it or code it _q0. I'm comfortable in Word so I go this workflow format-conversion route: calibre epub --> rtf saved out --> Word (search/replace) docx --> Open Office odt --> add to calibre --> ePub. The conversions from rtf to docx to odt each cleans out Microsoft format garbage and reduces size considerably. If I were more comfortable in Open Office I'd simplify that workflow a lot, but I'm not yet. This way works fairly well for a beginner like me. I don't bother going the html fix-it-up path because for my purposes that's overkill and I'm not that comfortable with it yet, in Sigil or even in html tags in general. Eventually I'll probably switch over to doing it the html way, which is apparently more precise, more flexible, more similar to internal calibre-conversions, and avoids some conversion problems, but I'm not there yet.

Tags. Since beginning with calibre I gradually used the tag browser less and the search box more. At about 3 or 4 months in I stopped using a lot of columns for genre, booktype, seriesstatus etc and started using the default tags column, tag prefixes to designate tag type, and abbreviations. Example of how I use tags now on a book:
_FormatQuality, ((GenrePrimary, (GenreSecondaries, [Type, %status, miscellaneous
_q4, ((fn, (mgc, (ya, [om, %sma, %su, r3
That translates to: Format good, fantasy with magic, young adult, omnibus, in multiauthor series, series up to date, myRating=3stars (and I've read it, otherwise it wouldn't be rated).

Empty books. I don't use Empty Book command or Empty Book records. I created a folder containing empty files (originally text, later converted to epub) titled Empty01 through Empty10 by author AAA, TBD. When I need to, I add a group of 10 "empty" books and change the metadata of one or several appropriately, keeping it format code _q0. The reason I do this is because empty books don't get included when you SaveToDisk a selection of books out. If you want them included in saves that eventually get added to a different library, book records indicating wishlist items need to hold a format. If you want to avoid all that just use CopyToLibrary instead which does copy empty books without formats.

Plugins. I use these Plugins frequently now - Find Dupes, Open With, Search Internet, Quality Check.

Collections on Devices. I don't use or want them. I prefer referring to tags in main library when necessary.

News. I haven't ever used a newsfeed. Maybe someday I will if I feel a need.

CSS. I haven't used style sheets. CSS is one of the complexities I want to take baby steps into soon.


Bottom-Line.

KISS your calibre use, then gradually learn any particular complexity in small steps from your KISSed baseline.

Last edited by unboggling; 09-17-2011 at 03:28 AM. Reason: Link to newer version.
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-12-2011, 11:50 PM   #53
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
The OP has sat there for 4 days. Has anyone complained about "Stupid" privately to mods or anyone about being offended? Books for Dummies don't bother me because I know I'm a Dummy in that subject area, otherwise I wouldn't need to read it.

Edit. OK. How about I take out the word "Stupid" leaving it as "Keep It Simple" but also keep the acronym KISS rather than changing it to KIS?

Edit2. Oh (smackmyhead), the problem is with the term Dummy having a possible derogatory connotation? I was thinking of dummy as a wooden puppet so didn't get it.

Last edited by unboggling; 08-13-2011 at 04:53 AM.
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 12:01 AM   #54
TreborPugly
Member
TreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-booksTreborPugly has learned how to read e-books
 
Posts: 13
Karma: 954
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Mobipocket reader on Blackberry, XO using FBreader, Kindle
I really like the content of your first post, and your refinement of it above, but aside from the "stupid" bit, there's no way you can call your advice simple. Anything that takes, what, 2000 words, to explain isn't simple.

I'd just call it "Advice for getting started with Calibre, from an experienced beginner!"
TreborPugly is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 01:00 AM   #55
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
Trebor, good point. [Edit3: Thank you. ]

It's not simple, plus it seems difficult at first not to get boggled in complexity. How about if I recast the use of Keep It Simple, Stupid (KISS) as follows. I make it apply only to me, not anyone else. I don't mind being called or labeled stupid (unless by a loved one). I act stupid often.

Edit. Never mind, I changed the title. "Stupid" went away.

Edit2. Let me amend that to: It seemed difficult at first not to get boggled in complexity, speaking as a new user who got boggled in complexity. But maybe I shouldn't generalize that too much to other new calibre users. in my case it may have been more a just-my-problem kind of thing since I always get boggled in complexity at first when doing something new that contains complexities because of a compulsion to ignore the simpler paths and explore the complexities to see how they work. I wasn't trying to use the provided new user paths to get started at first, I was going for too much way too fast and got boggled biting off more than I could chew.

Last edited by unboggling; 08-13-2011 at 10:04 PM.
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 07:54 AM   #56
theducks
Grand Sorcerer
theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
theducks's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,870
Karma: 5654321
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: (The original) Silicon Valley, USA
Device: Galaxy Tab 2, Astak Pocket Pro, K4NT
I noticed that many brand new users don't take any time to explore Calibre (menus and option settings) before starting their Library with the throttle wide open and no course laid in. (Some of you choices will depend on the reding di=evices you wish to support)

My advice for all new programs, Calibre included: "Take time to look at all the menu choices, see what options settings are available, and always explore the Right click (context) menu choices.
Change (almost) nothing at this time. (That setting, may not really do what you think it does. Read the balloon help twice).
theducks is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 03:16 PM   #57
unboggling
by the bootstraps
unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.unboggling ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,053
Karma: 858115
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southeast US
Device: PRS-T2, Nexus 7, KindleT, iPad1, Kindle3KB
Quote:
Originally Posted by theducks View Post
I noticed that many brand new users don't take any time to explore Calibre (menus and option settings) before starting their Library with the throttle wide open and no course laid in.
I didn't figure out the right click stuff until a month or two in. I found out about it by asking how to do something here and someone responded "right click, this menu item achieves that purpose." That was a surprise. I was so boggled in complexity I'd completely missed right clicking. And of course I hadn't bothered to read the user guide, manuals, tutorials carefully by that point. Last week someone asked "how do you add columns?" and I realized I'd asked that exact same question months ago. And balloon help / mouse tips ? Heh: "Nah, I'm too savvy to need those because I am an experienced computer user who never needs to read the documentation." Heh. I distinctly recall bragging here that I never read manuals. It took weeks after that for the embarrassment to sink in and slap me silly.

I actually deleted a lot of advice like that from the KISS revision after I added it in yesterday.

Read the manual. Read the tutorials. Pay attention to mouse tips. Think about what stuff does before doing it in a bulk operation. Be nice on the forum.

I deleted it because…. Hmm, I'm not sure why I deleted it. I think I was worried about size of the post and trying not to repeat a lot from the manual. Maybe I should add stuff like that back in. Use spoilers, or something.

Edit: If as new user I didn't bother to read the documentation carefully, why would I want to pay attention to yet more documentation offering advice that is contained in other documentation or is just common sense?

Last edited by unboggling; 08-13-2011 at 05:07 PM.
unboggling is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 04:22 PM   #58
theducks
Grand Sorcerer
theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.theducks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
theducks's Avatar
 
Posts: 14,870
Karma: 5654321
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: (The original) Silicon Valley, USA
Device: Galaxy Tab 2, Astak Pocket Pro, K4NT
Quote:
Originally Posted by unboggling View Post
I didn't figure out the right click stuff until a month or two in. I found out about it by asking how to do something here and someone responded "right click, this menu item achieves that purpose." That was a surprise. I was so boggled in complexity I'd completely missed right clicking. And of course I hadn't bothered to read the user guide, manuals, tutorials carefully by that point. Last week someone asked "how do you add columns?" and I realized I'd asked that exact same question months ago. And balloon help / mouse tips ? Heh: "Nah, I'm too savvy to need those because I am an experienced computer user who never needs to read the documentation." Heh. I distinctly recall bragging here that I never read manuals. It took weeks after that for the embarrassment to sink in and slap me silly.

I actually deleted a lot of advice like that from the KISS revision after I added it in yesterday.

Read the manual. Read the tutorials. Pay attention to mouse tips. Think about what stuff does before doing it in a bulk operation. Be nice on the forum.

I deleted it because…. Hmm, I'm not sure why I deleted it. I think I was worried about size of the post and trying not to repeat a lot from the manual. Maybe I should add stuff like that back in. Use spoilers, or something.
I would put Exploring and using tool tips before resorting to the Manual (we all know that manuals are always in catch-up mode . )
theducks is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 04:35 PM   #59
kmckinley
Member
kmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-books
 
Posts: 15
Karma: 954
Join Date: Aug 2011
Device: NOOK Simple Touch
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaley View Post
Someone will, for certain.

A related example: I will not buy any book titled "XXX for Dummies." I don't care if the author considers it humorous. I don't.
I had that reaction at first. Then I noticed for "XXX for Dummies" books are good introductions to new subjects.

But I draw the line at "Complete Idiot's Guide to XXX" I won't buy those.

I'm a relatively new user of Calibre, and I love it. (Thank you, Mr. Goyal!) I believe I understood unboggling's points (even the one about children's tennis -- I think some folks just get their panties in a wad too quickly).

I look at using Calibre with its defaults as the KISS approach. I've discovered I vacillate between jackie_w's two groups, so now I'm exploring plugins and other programs to use in conjunction with Calibre to get the books I want the way I want (or at least a way I can live with).
kmckinley is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 05:06 PM   #60
kmckinley
Member
kmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-bookskmckinley has learned how to read e-books
 
Posts: 15
Karma: 954
Join Date: Aug 2011
Device: NOOK Simple Touch
I left Bellevue a long time ago, so I use OpenOffice.org for my word processing needs. OOo allows search and replace based on regular expressions or format tags.

I recently discovered the OOo extension <a href="http://lukesblog.it/ebooks/ebook-tools/writer2epub/">Writer2epub</a>.

Writer2epub will generate a valid epub from a document, separating it into chapters based on heading tags if you wish (or not, if you don't).

One long-out-of-print book I wanted was available to me only as a single big blob of text. I used OOo and Writer2epub to make a nice book out of it.
kmckinley is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Two Users--One Calibre Library? jerrypettit Devices 3 06-24-2011 01:01 PM
First We Kiss B.K. Wright Self-Promotions by Authors and Publishers 0 11-25-2010 02:31 PM
Hi, Calibre users zaphod234 Introduce Yourself 6 07-22-2010 08:16 AM
The Success of the iPad and KISS ColdSun General Discussions 68 07-10-2010 10:33 PM
How do Calibre users.... Lanyon Calibre 24 01-01-2009 01:29 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:49 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.