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Old 08-09-2011, 09:00 PM   #121
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The fees are for one particular library's use of Adobe Content Server. Anyone using Adobe Content Server must pay these fees. Yes, Adobe makes lots of money on ADE. They have a virtual monopoly on library content. Any time someone uses the "free" Adobe Digital Editions to download a book, someone has to pay Adobe their vig. The only company that has attempted to break the library monopoly is Amazon...when Kindle library lending begins, Adobe won't be getting the automatic kickback on Kindle lended books. Whether or not you like/dislike Amazon, monopoly busting is a good thing.
Your statement about Adobe being a monopoly and Amazon fighting back is incorrect.

Before ePub, libraries had Mobipocket (for reflowable content). Amazon bought Mobipocket. So basically, other then PDF, Amazon had the format. Sony went to Mobipocket to ask to add Mobipocket as another format to the 505. Mobipocket said they had to be the only format to support DRM and Sony said no. Sony went with ePub via ADE.

So it was Amazon that helped give rise to ADE by being dumb enough to say no to allowing Sony to use Mobipocket.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:19 PM   #122
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Your statement about Adobe being a monopoly and Amazon fighting back is incorrect.
I wasn't aware that libraries were using a different DRM for ePubs and PDFs besides Adobe's. Which one might that be? As for Mobipocket, I'm quite aware that Amazon purchased it to cannibalize for their own platform. Amazon chose not to support Mobipocket as it was...that ship has sailed. Since Amazon has made it perfectly clear that they will not use Adobe's scheme, the arrangement to use the library's existing ebook licenses (yes, all of them) to fulfill as Kindle books from Amazon's servers seems perfectly reasonable. Otherwise, libraries would be pressured to purchase new Amazon books which is unnecessary under this plan.
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I wasn't aware that libraries were using a different DRM for ePubs and PDFs besides Adobe's. Which one might that be? As for Mobipocket, I'm quite aware that Amazon purchased it to cannibalize for their own platform. Amazon chose not to support Mobipocket as it was...that ship has sailed. Since Amazon has made it perfectly clear that they will not use Adobe's scheme, the arrangement to use the library's existing ebook licenses (yes, all of them) to fulfill as Kindle books from Amazon's servers seems perfectly reasonable. Otherwise, libraries would be pressured to purchase new Amazon books which is unnecessary under this plan.
Did you even read what I wrote? I said nothing about ePub & PDF and different DRM from Adobe. I told you why Amazon fighting back is incorrect. It's incorrect because it's Amazon's fault that they did not allow Mobipocket to be used by other companies. That led to Mobipocket's downfall. It had nothing to do with ADE/Adobe. It has to do with the incompetence of whoever it was who made the decision to deny Sony the use of Mobipocket by wanted to be the only DRM capable format.
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Did you even read what I wrote? I said nothing about ePub & PDF and different DRM from Adobe. I told you why Amazon fighting back is incorrect. It's incorrect because it's Amazon's fault that they did not allow Mobipocket to be used by other companies. That led to Mobipocket's downfall. It had nothing to do with ADE/Adobe. It has to do with the incompetence of whoever it was who made the decision to deny Sony the use of Mobipocket by wanted to be the only DRM capable format.
Yes, I read what you wrote, JS. Now, read my response again. "...As for Mobipocket, I'm quite aware that Amazon purchased it to cannibalize for their own platform. Amazon chose not to support Mobipocket as it was..." If Amazon wasn't going to support Mobipocket, why would they license it to Sony? My initial statement that "Adobe has a virtual monopoly on library books" is still the case. It will not be the case once Amazon's library program begins...possibly in less than a month.
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Yes, I read what you wrote, JS. Now, read my response again. "...As for Mobipocket, I'm quite aware that Amazon purchased it to cannibalize for their own platform. Amazon chose not to support Mobipocket as it was..." If Amazon wasn't going to support Mobipocket, why would they license it to Sony? My initial statement that "Adobe has a virtual monopoly on library books" is still the case. It will not be the case once Amazon's library program begins...possibly in less than a month.
It's not a monopoly. It's what the market demands. The market shifted from Mobipocket to ePub thanks to Amazon. So really, we do have Amazon to thank for ePub being the #1 format.
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we do have Amazon to thank for ePub being the #1 format.
So why are you so hard on them?
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So why are you so hard on them?
Because Amazon finally realized their mistake and are trying to rectify it. We can't have that. It's bad for eBooks.
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Because Amazon finally realized their mistake and are trying to rectify it.
What should a person do when they realize that they mad a mistake?
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We can't have that.
Are you using the royal "we," JS? You are nothing if not consistent.
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Get a reader that supports ePub.
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Are you using the royal "we," JS? You are nothing if not consistent.
What about Mobipocket that's better then ePub?

I am not talking about DRM or Amazon. Just about the technical merits of both formats.
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What about Mobipocket that's better then ePub?

I am not talking about DRM or Amazon. Just about the technical merits of both formats.
I'm not at all concerned about the technical merits. Most people aren't. Mobi is quite adequate as I'm sure ePub is. I have a very good reading experience with Mobi. If I were horribly anal about the perfection of the appearance of the text, I would have remained with hard cover books. As long as it's clear and easy to read, I'm good.
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Get a reader that supports ePub.
Ok, you nudged some karma from me for that one.

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You just made his head explode.
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You just made his head explode.
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