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Old 07-06-2011, 09:31 PM   #1
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Should I be afraid that 3.2.1 will break my Kindle?

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Currently using a Kindle3 Wifi model running fw 3.1

I have installed the jailbreak and a screensaver hack.

As I understand the Kindle can update itself during night automatically and there is no way to prevent it, so if Amazon pushes out 3.2.1, will this put my Kindle at risk of being bricked? Is it advised to uninstall hacks at this time?
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Hello!

Currently using a Kindle3 Wifi model running fw 3.1

I have installed the jailbreak and a screensaver hack.

As I understand the Kindle can update itself during night automatically and there is no way to prevent it, so if Amazon pushes out 3.2.1, will this put my Kindle at risk of being bricked? Is it advised to uninstall hacks at this time?
keep wifi off and sideload your books.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:45 AM   #3
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For the case of 3.1, the installer was available from the website for several days before the Amazon started pushing out the updates over wireless. If you want to be on the super safe side, you should just keep your wireless connection off at all times. However, there is a good chance that the new version will be available for download from Amazon's website before it is automatically installed.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:37 AM   #4
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keep wifi off and sideload your books.
That's not possible as I am receiving digests from a number of sources (Instapaper, other newspapapers) via the email address.

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For the case of 3.1, the installer was available from the website for several days before the Amazon started pushing out the updates over wireless. If you want to be on the super safe side, you should just keep your wireless connection off at all times. However, there is a good chance that the new version will be available for download from Amazon's website before it is automatically installed.
You talk about preventive measures, are you saying it is likely that the update will brick the Kindle if it happens?
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I really don't think a big company such as Amazon will push an update which breaks the jailbroken devices. Because if they do so, they will replace the bricked devices which will surely cost a lot. The most this update can do will be making the jailbreak useless.
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My understanding is that updates will only come by WiFi and not 3G. Am I right?
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:14 AM   #7
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I really don't think a big company such as Amazon will push an update which breaks the jailbroken devices. Because if they do so, they will replace the bricked devices which will surely cost a lot. The most this update can do will be making the jailbreak useless.
They are under absolutely no obligation to replace them. The user has broken the user agreement, which clearly states:

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No Reverse Engineering, Decompilation, Disassembly, or Circumvention. You may not modify, reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Kindle or the Software, whether in whole or in part, create any derivative works from or of the Software, or bypass, modify, defeat, or tamper with or circumvent any of the functions or protections of the Kindle or Software or any mechanisms operatively linked to the Software, for example, by augmenting or substituting any digital rights management functionality of the Kindle or Software.
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Termination. Your rights under this Agreement will automatically terminate if you fail to comply with any term of this Agreement. In case of such termination, you must cease all use of the Software, and Amazon may immediately revoke your access to the Service or to Digital Content without refund of any fees. Amazon's failure to insist upon or enforce your strict compliance with this Agreement will not constitute a waiver of any of its rights.
Plainly, therefore, if you modify the software, you have agreed to stop using it, and that Amazon are perfectly within their rights to terminate your service without any form of refund.

This is the chance you take by jailbreaking.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:16 AM   #8
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My understanding is that updates will only come by WiFi and not 3G. Am I right?
It seems to depend. The 3.1 update only came by WiFi, but the earlier ones were delivered by 3G, also. I imagine that minor patches would come by 3G. Guess it depends how large an update this one is.
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Is there anything interesting in the new update?
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:25 PM   #10
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I don't believe so; it was brought out primarily to support the ad-supported Kindle. Presumably the main change is support for displaying a specific screensaver at a designated date.
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I don't believe so; it was brought out primarily to support the ad-supported Kindle. Presumably the main change is support for displaying a specific screensaver at a designated date.
Are they going to make everyone have adverts?
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No; it is, by all accounts, also the firmware version in currently-sold "normal" Kindles, too. I guess it makes sense to try to have the same firmware in all Kindles.
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Is there any way to avoid the update, maybe with a hack?

Also, why are people in general not worried about this? Am I the only one who uses the wifi functionality to receive Calibre news feeds etc?

Custom screensavers are nice but it's definitely not worth the risk of bricking your device at any point?

I have a wifi Kindle 3 so I can't guarantee it won't update as it's connected to the wifi at home.

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That's not possible as I am receiving digests from a number of sources (Instapaper, other newspapapers) via the email address.



You talk about preventive measures, are you saying it is likely that the update will brick the Kindle if it happens?
Nobody knows for sure. I'd hate to be the one to say no and be wrong.

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Is there any way to avoid the update, maybe with a hack?

Also, why are people in general not worried about this? Am I the only one who uses the wifi functionality to receive Calibre news feeds etc?

Custom screensavers are nice but it's definitely not worth the risk of bricking your device at any point?

I have a wifi Kindle 3 so I can't guarantee it won't update as it's connected to the wifi at home.
Maybe this post will solve your worries:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=122000

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Nobody knows for sure. I'd hate to be the one to say no and be wrong.
Maybe this post will solve your worries:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...45&postcount=2
Thanks, more specifically I found this post that seems to solve all my worries:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=35

(In short, put an empty file called ENABLE_HACK_UPDATES in the root of your Kindle.)

The NiLuJe hack is the one that is found on this page: (Which I assume most people who just swing by to install the jailbreak/screensaver hack use.)
http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kind...Jailbreak_Hack

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