Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Software > Calibre

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-18-2011, 05:02 AM   #1
potestus
Enthusiast
potestus began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 27
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: sony prs-600
How to stop Tags Merging

Hi,
I notice that tags now merge with those already in the book.
Since I have now tidied up my tags/genres using goodreads etc. I want to switch off this merging of strgane tags into my tag-pool when I import new books.

Where to I change kit back to overwriting?

Regards.
potestus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2011, 07:02 AM   #2
kiwidude
calibre/Sigil Developer
kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,224
Karma: 1334002
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: London, UK
Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3G, iPad 3, iPad Air
Tags merging has been the traditional calibre behaviour, it was just that such behaviour got "broken" with calibre 0.8 changes. It was me that requested Kovid restore the original behaviour. The reason is that many people like myself put their own values into the tags field, like indicating wish list items, books they have read etc. Having your own tags overwritten when the tags column was the "traditional" approach to storing extra information about your books was too destructive and dangerous. Particularly if say you were doing a metadata download to update some other fields and had forgotten you had the tags column ticked. There is no undo feature in calibre, and to accidentally lose sometimes important information by overwriting for many users is not the right thing to be doing IMHO.

I did suggest to Kovid the option of a controllable setting but he chose to just fix the behaviour. There is no way to change it back to overwriting. However I would suggest that should rarely be a problem? As if you are adding new books they should not have tags to overwrite. If you are cleaning up your library and your books have tags that you want to replace with a metadata download, just select them, hit E and tick the Remove all tags checkbox.
kiwidude is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Enthusiast
Old 06-18-2011, 09:24 AM   #3
DoctorOhh
US Navy, Retired
DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DoctorOhh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DoctorOhh's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,768
Karma: 12516053
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Carolina
Device: Nexus 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwidude View Post
However I would suggest that should rarely be a problem? As if you are adding new books they should not have tags to overwrite.
Many books have preloaded tags. I was actually enjoying the tag overwrite feature. But it is almost as easy to delete tags prior to updating the metadata.
DoctorOhh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2011, 09:52 AM   #4
kiwidude
calibre/Sigil Developer
kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kiwidude ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,224
Karma: 1334002
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: London, UK
Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3G, iPad 3, iPad Air
Ahh yes. I always keep the "Read metadata from file contents rather than file name" unchecked since most books contain garbage data internally, but yes you are right, that could add tags.

As you say, it is trivial to remove them. What is not trivial is to "recover" lost tags for those who did not want them overwritten.
kiwidude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 07:46 PM   #5
speakingtohe
Wizard
speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.speakingtohe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,565
Karma: 24978608
Join Date: Apr 2010
Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet
I have 8002 tags which is not an ideal situation by any means. Periodically I take a stab at weeding out a few hundred (I had 11,000+ at one time), all from within books or from metadata downloads.

Still, like kiwidude, I was disconcerted to have my tags overwritten, and be left with a single tag usually genre.

many (perhaps most) of my tags are repetitive and useless but I still get a lot of use from the tag function.

Recently I read a steampunk novel and was looking for more. I only had 1 book tagged steampunk and that was the one I had read, so I clicked on Victorian and control clicked on urban fantasy and voila I had a few more

IMO too many tags are better than not enough.

Helen
speakingtohe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 09:47 AM   #6
potestus
Enthusiast
potestus began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 27
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: sony prs-600
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwanthny View Post
Many books have preloaded tags. I was actually enjoying the tag overwrite feature. But it is almost as easy to delete tags prior to updating the metadata.
Ye it is ok if you are doing one at a time - however with a bulk upload it can be problematic.
I would like to have a switch.
I have 210 tags/genres and am happy.
potestus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 09:51 AM   #7
potestus
Enthusiast
potestus began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 27
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Device: sony prs-600
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwanthny View Post
Many books have preloaded tags. I was actually enjoying the tag overwrite feature. But it is almost as easy to delete tags prior to updating the metadata.
Ye it is ok if you are doing one at a time - however with a bulk upload it can be problematic.
I would like to have a switch.
I have 210 tags/genres and 4300 books .
potestus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Merging 2 Library's logs Calibre 8 05-25-2011 09:37 AM
Merging ebooks jmjacobs Library Management 7 01-29-2011 07:01 AM
Request Merging journals ericvh enTourage Archive 3 07-27-2010 02:06 PM
Merging Libraries dvs0826 Calibre 2 08-23-2009 03:57 AM
help: merging scarlett_yan iRex 5 09-22-2007 04:18 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:20 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.