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Old 05-21-2011, 10:55 AM   #1
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Jennifer McMahon's "Don't Breathe a Word" count of pages

Hello I would like to ask those who have purchased this ebook if they can tell me how many pages long the book is on your readers. Because mine has a number of pages very different from the amount in the print book version. I know the amount of pages may vary from format to format but my count goes far from the amount of pages on the print.
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:58 AM   #2
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Hello I would like to ask those who have purchased this ebook if they can tell me how many pages long the book is on your readers. Because mine has a number of pages very different from the amount in the print book version.
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Why would you expect it to be the same? ADE "pages" are just a count of bytes in the file (1024 bytes of the compressed file per "page"), and have nothing whatsoever to do with real pages in any printed edition.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:26 AM   #3
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Please, answering a question by a question (without at least giving the answer) is frustrating my friend !
Anyways I'll answer your question. I don't expect it to be the same, I see discrepancies in page numbers for pretty much any ebook but this one I'm asking because the difference is huge. 354 pages vs 464 pages. that's a third more pages in the print. So maybe I got some shorter version or simplified version for whatever reason. I don't know ergo I'm asking.

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Why would you expect it to be the same? ADE "pages" are just a count of bytes in the file (1024 bytes of the compressed file per "page"), and have nothing whatsoever to do with real pages in any printed edition.
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I have given you the answer. The Sony displays ADE pages. These have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the number of pages in the printed book - they are simply related to the size of the ePub file. Don't worry about it.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:31 AM   #5
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I can get the pane number to change just by say changing some of the code. Also the compression level has something to do with the page count as well. It's a non-issue that you are making into an issue.
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:18 PM   #6
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Why does everybody say I'm making an issue when all I'm doing is asking a question ? is it so hard to answer "my copy says xxx pages, mine says xxx ..." ?
I guess this raises the question of why putting a page count in ebook devices since it seems to NOT be an actual count of pages, but someone will say I'm creating an issue where there isn't one.


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I can get the pane number to change just by say changing some of the code. Also the compression level has something to do with the page count as well. It's a non-issue that you are making into an issue.
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Why does everybody say I'm making an issue when all I'm doing is asking a question ? is it so hard to answer "my copy says xxx pages, mine says xxx ..." ?
Everybody who uses an ADE-based eBook reader (which means pretty much every device except the Kindle) will see exactly the same number of pages as you see.

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I guess this raises the question of why put a page count in ebook devices since it seems to NOT be an actual count of pages, but someone will say I'm creating an issue where there isn't one.
One reason is to allow you to reference a particular point in the book. If you refer to something on page 105, then anyone else with an ADE-based reader will be able to refer to the same point in the book. Page 105 on your Sony will be the same position in the book as page 105 on a Kobo or a Pocketbook reader.
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I see and I thank you for clearing this up. Now I know that everybody should have the same count of pages as I do. So just to put my mind at ease I'll rephrase my question based on this new info you gave me:
Does anyone who got this book have 354 pages in the count of their device for this book ?

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Everybody who uses an ADE-based eBook reader (which means pretty much every device except the Kindle) will see exactly the same number of pages as you see.

One reason is to allow you to reference a particular point in the book. If you refer to something on page 105, then anyone else with an ADE-based reader will be able to refer to the same point in the book. Page 105 on your Sony will be the same position in the book as page 105 on a Kobo or a Pocketbook reader.

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Not to stir things up again, (sorry I don't have the book you mentioned), but remember the ADE pages in the Text (showing on the right side of the page) is different than what the ereader shows at the bottom and/or top of the page. That (the ereader's calculated page number) is dependent on the reader, the size font and possibly other issues.

If you are talking about the ADE page numbers showing on the right side of the text, then just ignore this message.

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after re-reading your original message, is the print copy your are referencing the Hard Back, which would have larger fonts and therefore more pages, or a paperback which would be small pages which could possibly be more pages.

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Old 05-21-2011, 01:51 PM   #10
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I don't have anything mentioned on the right side of any page in my Sony reader. The page count is at the bottom.
I believe it's the paperback that has 464 pages.

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Breathe-W...5996569&sr=1-1

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Not to stir things up again, (sorry I don't have the book you mentioned), but remember the ADE pages in the Text (showing on the right side of the page) is different than what the ereader shows at the bottom and/or top of the page. That page number is dependent on the reader, the size font and possibly other issues.

If you are talking about the ADE page numbers showing on the right side of the text, then just ignore this message.

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after re-reading your original message, is the print copy your are referencing the Hard Back, which would have larger fonts and therefore more pages, or a paperback which would be small pages which could possibly be more pages.
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Not to stir things up again, (sorry I don't have the book you mentioned), but remember the ADE pages in the Text (showing on the right side of the page) is different than what the ereader shows at the bottom and/or top of the page. That page number is dependent on the reader, the size font and possibly other issues.
Actually, ADE's page numbers are independent of the font or the font size.
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I've noticed that the Sony reader and the internal reader in Calibre give different numbers of pages for the same book. Calibre always gives a much larger number. For instance, I opened a random book on my reader and it shows it having 395 pages. I opened the same book in Calibre and it shows it having 824 pages.
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Actually, ADE's page numbers are independent of the font or the font size.

Sorry, my grammer was a bit confusing. I meant the individual ereaders are dependent on font size, etc. ADE page numbers are set, and I personally don't like them.

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I thought the page numbers were set by the epub file, where does ADE come into it? If I remove the DRM (and thus take ADE out of the equation), the page numbers are still going to be the same.

I know that the page numbers CAN be tied to the number of pages in the print file. I did a test of creating an epub file from an InDesign file, I just wanted to try it out. When my InDesign file was 15 pages, my epub was 15 pages. When I changed the page size such that my InDesign file was now 25 pages (same amount of text), the epub created from that file was also 25 pages. So in this case, it was pegged to the "print version."

I have also noticed the huge discrepancy in how Calibre's file view calculates number of pages and I wasn't sure why that is.

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Page numbering for books vs. ebooks is a mess. Last week I read The Peach Keeper via an ebook borrowed from the library, and it was 186 pages, vs. the 288 pages listed for the hardcover.
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