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Old 05-05-2011, 03:17 PM   #1
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Is John Scalzi's new book a follow up to H. Beam Piper's work?

Tor is releasing Fuzzy Nation which appears to be set in H. Beam Piper's Fuzzy universe. Does anyone know anything about this book? I'm a big fan of Scalzi but it's been years since I read Piper's Fuzzy books (got the MR collection waiting on my Kindle).

I'm just curious if they're set in the same universe or if it's an unrelated homage, I'm fine with it either way.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:24 PM   #2
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Lots about it on his blog:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/?s=fuzzy+nation
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Had a quick read of the excerpt. Not only set in the same universe, uses some of the original characters. Thanks for the link, Fuzzy Nation is now in my TBB pile.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:41 PM   #4
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Wait. Are these the books where the protagonist is some sort ambassador to a planet of teddy-bear like creatures that are obsessed with imitating parts of human culture? I seem to remember something about the Galactic Series of Baseball or some such.
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:43 PM   #5
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It's basically a reboot of H. Beam Piper's work.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:11 PM   #6
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The first two chapters were posted to io9.com - it's a reboot. Essentially the same story, which is a shame, really. I'd rather have read a sequel set in the same universe than have Scalzi rewrite a superior author's book. It's not as if Little Fuzzy is so hard to find - it's a classic.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:23 PM   #7
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It's surprising, a reboot, or retelling of the same story, isn't something I would have expected. I do really like Scalzi's writing though, so I think I'll give it a try. The first few chapters piqued my interest, but the $11.99 ebook price tag is pretty off-putting.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:42 AM   #8
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I guess the reason for it being a reboot is so Scalzi can write future stories without having to make sure his stuff meshes up with that of two other authors.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:15 AM   #9
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If you want a straight out sequel to H. Beam Piper's works, then you want _Fuzzy Ergo Sum_:

http://www.amazon.com/Fuzzy-Ergo-Sum.../dp/B004XQVEP2

(there's a single review, which I don't find encouraging)

Hellmark, there's only one writer who matters, Piper --- William Tuning's _Fuzzy Bones_ and Ardath Mayhar's _Fuzzy Odyssey_ were displaced by Piper's _Fuzzies and Other People_ which was eventually found and published.

Scalzi has taken a lot of liberties w/ Piper's characters (he's no longer ``Old Man'' Jack Holloway) --- I read through the sample chapters and didn't much like the character (who had none in comparison to Piper's original) --- YMMV.

I also don't see the point of a reboot --- of all Piper's works, _Little Fuzzy_ has held up the best IMO (the anachronistic developing of film &c. don't bother me at all).

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Old 05-06-2011, 09:30 AM   #10
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Jeez, more than I remembered. I only remembered Piper and Tuning.

Still, I stand by my point that a reboot would be the best way to work in the Fuzzy universe without having to worry about continuity with other people. I mean, look how convoluted it gets with comics. Not saying I'd like Scalzi's work better, just makes more sense on his side of things.

EDIT: Additional thought here
Out of curiousity, how does this effect the books going into the canadian public domain. If I remember right, there it is Life+50, and we're 3 years off from the 50th anniversary of his death. Little Fuzzy and his earlier works I know are in the US public domain, but his later works are not. I'm not canadian, and don't plan on raiding the canadian PG in a few years, just a random tangent I got on (just had some Canadian candy while going through this thread).

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Old 05-06-2011, 06:09 PM   #11
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As a big fan of Piper, I am conflicted. On the one hand, it's great people are remembering his work.

On the other, the books are classic and they are being remade by someone who is really rather overrated.
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On the other, the books are classic and they are being remade by someone who is really rather overrated.
You know, a few years ago, I probably would have argued with you over Scalzi being overrated. But frankly, after (and excepting) Old Man's War, I've been largely unimpressed with everything he's written. Don't get me wrong, most of the books are OK, but really nothing special. So I'm going to have to agree with you--Scalzi's a one-hit wonder in my opinion. He seems more concerned with blogging now-a-days anyway.
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there's only one writer who matters, Piper --- William Tuning's _Fuzzy Bones_ and Ardath Mayhar's _Fuzzy Odyssey_ were displaced by Piper's _Fuzzies and Other People_ which was eventually found and published.
Which I think a pity, since Fuzzy Bones is a stronger work than Fuzzies and Other People, IMHO. It had an original idea, whereas Piper's one conclusion was just more of the same.
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You know, a few years ago, I probably would have argued with you over Scalzi being overrated. But frankly, after (and excepting) Old Man's War, I've been largely unimpressed with everything he's written. Don't get me wrong, most of the books are OK, but really nothing special. So I'm going to have to agree with you--Scalzi's a one-hit wonder in my opinion. He seems more concerned with blogging now-a-days anyway.
Mirrors my opinion exactly.
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It's not bad enough that Hollywood is digging up the corpses of greater creators than they and doing things to them I can't say on MobileRead ... now we have writers doing it.

Frankly, this looks to me like a blatant cash grab. He's grafted LF names onto his own story so that a) he can get sales from people nostalgic for the original (or just confused) who would never have bought it with original names, and b) if someone sells, say, a Baby Fuzzy with an elastic band to hold it on your head, he can demand a cut. Not a good thing at all ... and as an SF reader, I have to say an even worse thing from one of our own.
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