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Old 03-28-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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Updating Calibre - why?

This may be a silly question, so flame away if you feel like it.

I'm a leisure reader with a Kindle DXG. I'm still on v7.42, it does everything I ask it to, so is there any reason for me to upgrade? Ever?
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:19 PM   #2
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No, there isn't.
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Upgrading makes sense only in case of (a) bug fixes that apply to you or (b) major improvements. Otherwise you would be upgrading on a weekly basis.
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:56 PM   #4
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I haven't upgraded since 0.7.47 since there have been no improvements or bug fixes that are of benefit to me (this is not to say that there haven't been any beneficial improvements or bug fixes). What I do is check the change log to see if there is anything of interest to me, then wait a few days to make sure there are no bug reports before downloading and installing. I always save the download, install it, then keep it in case I need to revert to that version at a later date (I've reverted only once).
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:23 PM   #5
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Just to offer a counter viewpoint for balance - I am an upgrade whore

Admittedly a lot of that is as a plugin developer I am usually wanting to take advantage of some change in the codebase to be able to offer a new feature.

But even if I wasn't developing plugins, I would still upgrade regularly. You might not see something immediately obvious in the change list (or even understand much of it) but there are continual bug-fixes, performance or usability improvements that often will become part of your everyday workflow once you become aware of them. They can be for the most subtle and intermittent of issues - like a problem with the cover browser causing Calibre to crash sometimes which a recent fix seems to have sorted.

Or a feature like downloading metadata/covers which you may find not working with older versions the next time you go to use it without the latest version workarounds...

Lady Fitzgerald's advice of waiting a few days is perfectly sensible if you are concerned you will hit a buggy release. There was a rather bad month a little while ago. However that is the exception rather than the norm - besides someone has to use it to find and report the bugs!

Having said all that - if you are perfectly happy, you don't experience any crashes or bugs that irritate you, are perfectly happy with the functionality you have and have no desire for anything else such as what the various plugins can offer... then stay where you are for a while longer
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:33 PM   #6
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I should clarify, I always upgrade *all* the software on my main machine to be at the bleeding edge, it's why I run a source based linux distribution (Gentoo). But then, I enjoy fixing broken software

For people that lack that little character quirk, I always say if you are happy with things the way they are, don't change them.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:00 PM   #7
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I'm a leisure reader with a Kindle DXG. I'm still on v7.42, it does everything I ask it to, so is there any reason for me to upgrade? Ever?
If you're content then the answer is no.

Reviewing the change log lets you know all of the new features built into calibre and if there isn't anything that interests you then don't upgrade. You might want to check this index of plugins to find out what is new in GUI plugins that you might want to consider using. Most of these plugins will be shortly updated to require calibre version 0.7.53.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:05 PM   #8
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I agree with most posts here, if Calibre is doing what you need it to do in it's current form, don't upgrade.

I for one, am also an upgrade ho! LOL! Especially with all the new plug-ins that have elevated my Calibre experience onto a whole different level! The plug-ins have made managing my library so simple and I say THANK YOU again to everyone involved.

Bottom line, do what is best for you. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Old 03-29-2011, 12:42 PM   #9
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:33 PM   #10
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:58 PM   #11
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I am a huge admirer of Calibre and of Kovid for what he is doing.

I see that we are presently at version .7.53. This would seem to demonstrate that it is a work in progress, working towards the eventual release of version 1.0.

If that is the case, is it proper to ask what the completed vision of Calibre might be?

Personally, not being particularly astute in matters of coding, modules etc. I am hoping that some of the fancier features of Calibre will become rather easier for the computer illiterati to execute, and that the manual will be a little more friendly to that group, which includes me.

That said, what Koval has given the reading community is huge beyond belief, and he is my nominee for the Nobel Prize for Literature for what he has given us.
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:24 PM   #12
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I am a huge admirer of Calibre and of Kovid for what he is doing.
I see that we are presently at version .7.53. This would seem to demonstrate that it is a work in progress, working towards the eventual release of version 1.0.
Yes, and when 1.0 is released, it will be a work in progress towards 2.0, then 3.0, etc.
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It will be great.

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Personally, not being particularly astute in matters of coding, modules etc. I am hoping that some of the fancier features of Calibre will become rather easier for the computer illiterati to execute, and that the manual will be a little more friendly to that group, which includes me.
Perhaps, but I wouldn't count on it. Calibre can do things that other programs can't because Kovid's not afraid to give the user complex tools to do complex tasks. He focuses on providing powerful tools, and if that comes with complexity, the user can always ignore those tools.

Calibre does have some semi-automated heuristic analysis tools and switch settings that try to automatically figure out what the user wants. Plus, it always strives to make the manual clearer and to automate what can be automated, but I doubt it will ever remove the complex Search and Replace, regex, CSS, template language, recipe API, XPath and similar tools that give it the power to do those complex tasks. Unfortunately, some jobs are just naturally complex.
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:35 PM   #13
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Probably never

Because for that to happen, there would be no more new devices (some device drivers might require a 're-visit' to the overall interface design)

Users would have to stop coming up with unique ways to use Calibre
This is software at it's best (and worst, because of still supporting ancient (Calibre scale) version users)
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:50 PM   #14
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Thanks all.
Unless I need it to do something that it doesn't now, I'll leave it alone until the next major upgrade.

Then I'll let you lot pick the bugs out of it first.
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I'm a leisure reader with a Kindle DXG. I'm still on v7.42, it does everything I ask it to, so is there any reason for me to upgrade? Ever?
Well, "Ever" is a very long time. There is an interesting feature introduced every week. Perhaps 0.7.43 or even 0.7.53 didn't bring anything that you find interesting at the moment, but keep an eye on changelog. Sooner or later there will be feature that will compel you to update.

I personally am updating to the new version as soon as possible.
This way I can test the software and report problems, so cautious users can get more stable software. And besides, I like being on the bleeding edge ...
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