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Old 03-24-2011, 02:20 PM   #1
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vga mirror questions

okay, with the new vga mirror cable will it be possible to send the signal to a video projector?
Also what software is best for slide presentations like powerpoint?
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:41 PM   #2
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There has been a VGA cable for quite a while. It works only with apps that are programmed to allow it. I have used my iPad 1 running 4.3 with it to mirror to a monitor and some programs work. I don't know which will do PPT though. I assume if it works with a monitor it will work with a projector.

I have successfully used PDF Reader Pro with the VGA cable. It isn't a PPT program but you can save PPT to PDF and then show them that way.

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Unless you have an iPad 2. It is reported to fully work on that platform.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:27 AM   #4
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There has been a VGA cable for quite a while. It works only with apps that are programmed to allow it. I have used my iPad 1 running 4.3 with it to mirror to a monitor and some programs work. I don't know which will do PPT though. I assume if it works with a monitor it will work with a projector.

I have successfully used PDF Reader Pro with the VGA cable. It isn't a PPT program but you can save PPT to PDF and then show them that way.
I think you are using the term "mirroring" wrong. There is "output" which is for single apps and "mirroring" which means that you can see exactly what's happening in the iPad.

True mirroring I got from the iPad 1 by jail breaking it and installing "display out" from Cydia (with the VGA cable). just $3 and it mirrors the entirety of the iPad. Very good for presenting PDFs as all PowerPoint apps suck on the iPad, or you have to convert each and very single graph to an image >_>... And yeah, yiu can watch ANY video that plays and play angry birdsvon the big screen =P

But I really doubt that the iPad 2 has true mirroring as apple wants to enforce DRM or whatever it's called for movies.

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I think you are using the term "mirroring" wrong. There is "output" which is for single apps and "mirroring" which means that you can see exactly what's happening in the iPad.

True mirroring I got from the iPad 1 by jail breaking it and installing "display out" from Cydia (with the VGA cable). just $3 and it mirrors the entirety of the iPad. Very good for presenting PDFs as all PowerPoint apps suck on the iPad, or you have to convert each and very single graph to an image >_>... And yeah, yiu can watch ANY video that plays and play angry birdsvon the big screen =P

But I really doubt that the iPad 2 has true mirroring as apple wants to enforce DRM or whatever it's called for movies.
True mirroring is in fact a feature of the iPad 2 with the HDMI cable. You can see exactly what is happening on the iPad screen. So in the case of PPTs, you could use Keynote to present your Powerpoint, and you'd see not just the app output, but the Keynote app on the iPad 2 screen as you click on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNoyoxnfeE

You can watch movies on the big screen as well-but it doesn't show up on the iPad 2 *while* it is playing on the HDTV-but this is less a DRM issue and more a processor issue, I believe. Airplay works similarly with movies in this respect. Limited to 720p for movies, but all the movies you buy on iTunes are 720p anyways.
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True mirroring is in fact a feature of the iPad 2 with the HDMI cable. You can see exactly what is happening on the iPad screen. So in the case of PPTs, you could use Keynote to present your Powerpoint, and you'd see not just the app output, but the Keynote app on the iPad 2 screen as you click on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNoyoxnfeE

You can watch movies on the big screen as well-but it doesn't show up on the iPad 2 *while* it is playing on the HDTV-but this is less a DRM issue and more a processor issue, I believe. Airplay works similarly with movies in this respect. Limited to 720p for movies, but all the movies you buy on iTunes are 720p anyways.
The big question is... does it work with the VGA adapter? Because that'll be the standard for at least 5-10 years for presenting. And you cannot change the output definition with the ipad2... with Display Out you can (640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768), you can even stretch it (16:10 and 16:9) and even show taps.

Tell me you can do that in iOS 4.3 and I update. Otherwise... no gracias, señor!
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The big question is... does it work with the VGA adapter? Because that'll be the standard for at least 5-10 years for presenting. And you cannot change the output definition with the ipad2... with Display Out you can (640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768), you can even stretch it (16:10 and 16:9) and even show taps.

Tell me you can do that in iOS 4.3 and I update. Otherwise... no gracias, señor!
Mirroring doesn't work with the iPad 1, or with the VGA adaptor, so the update won't help you anyways.

VGA still being the standard in 10 years? I doubt it.
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Mirroring doesn't work with the iPad 1, or with the VGA adaptor, so the update won't help you anyways.

VGA still being the standard in 10 years? I doubt it.
Mirroring does work with VGA as well as HDMI for iPad 2! I suspect it may be a bug in 4.3 that Mirroring of VGA does not work for iPad 1 but for now it does not. I am not sure anyone has jail broken 4.3 yet.
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VGA out to a monitor was working with some programs on iPad 1 running 4.3. Now it is totally broken on 4.3.1. There are multiple (literally dozens) of vertical and horizontal lines displaying on the monitor. I'm not sure if Apple unintentionally broke this function are decided to sabotage it for iPad 1s.
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Evidently no one is reading my posts. A simple app from Cydia called "Display Out" makes mirroring with iPad 1 possible.
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Not everyone wants to jailbreak their iPad. I sure don't.
I also didn't want to, but for presentations it's really worth it. You can really make presentations with the fotos app instead of the crashy quick office. It wasn't an impulse decision, I tried and tested different apps with the VGA adapter and a Beamer before doing it. And I still don't regret it.

In addition, if you have 4.2.1 is really easy. plus SBS settings is really cool.

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