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Old 03-19-2011, 01:48 PM   #1
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trouble with TXT format....

I'm having trouble getting my 302 display correctly the simplest of formats: TXT

I was trying to load up an RFC (say.. http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc793.txt).
Notice that the diagrams are basic characters with spaces in between. The reader seems to alter the spacing and linefeeds which leaves the diagrams in a total mess.
Does anybody know if there is an option that can be enabled to avoid this problem?
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Old 03-19-2011, 02:12 PM   #2
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I'm having trouble getting my 302 display correctly the simplest of formats: TXT

I was trying to load up an RFC (say.. http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc793.txt).
Notice that the diagrams are basic characters with spaces in between. The reader seems to alter the spacing and linefeeds which leaves the diagrams in a total mess.
Does anybody know if there is an option that can be enabled to avoid this problem?
I am just guessing based on what I have read on this board, but according to Kacir FBreader does not preserve formatting, and tends to justify on the left. You could try and install reader42's port of Coolreader, which might solve the problem (it is still very beta, but you could read your file).

As I said, though, it is jsut a guess.
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i would try another font like arial where each character uses the same spaceing.
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:18 PM   #4
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You need to use a monospace font e.g. "Courier New", or "Liberation Mono".

@bense2k, As far as I know Arial is a proportional sans-serif font not a monospace font.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:02 AM   #5
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@jackie_w: I don't think this is a font character width issue since the spaces all seem to be truncated. For ex:

ssssssss +----------------+
ssssssss |ssssssssssssssss |
ssssssss +----------------+

Becomes:
+----------------+
|s|
+----------------+

where 's' stands for space.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:00 AM   #6
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I am just guessing based on what I have read on this board, but according to Kacir FBreader does not preserve formatting, and tends to justify on the left. You could try and install reader42's port of Coolreader, which might solve the problem (it is still very beta, but you could read your file).

As I said, though, it is jsut a guess.
Thanks for the suggestion. I downloaded it, but I don't find an extentions.cfg in my /system/config directory. The /system/bin directory was empty too. I copied the cr3.app into it. There was no /system/share directory either. So I created one and copied the contents of the share directory into it. When I click on the text file, I don't get a choice to open it with coolreader....
What am I doing wrong here?
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I tried the TXT file on both my PB360 and my Sony PRS650. I think Paolamanzini's assessment is correct, the problem is FBReader, as my Sony does not remove the leading spaces.

If you are a Calibre user you could try converting the TXT to EPUB. Calibre has a 'preserve spaces' option you could set. You would need to play around with Calibre's TXT Input conversion options until you produced an EPUB you were happy with.

Finally you would need to read the EPUB on your PB with the AdobeViewer app rather than FBReader.

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I don't find an extentions.cfg in my /system/config directory.
You'll have to create on. Search here in the forum for it, there should be examples somewhere.
Otherwise the coolreader won't show up as option.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:26 AM   #9
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Thanks for the reply! I've been playing around with calibre but I don't get the preserve spaces option. May be this was a new feature introduced and I've an older version of calibre?

$ ebook-convert --version
ebook-convert (calibre 0.6.42)
Created by: Kovid Goyal <kovid@kovidgoyal.net>
$ ebook-convert rfc.txt .epub --preserve-spaces
Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
...
....
ebook-convert: error: no such option: --preserve-spaces

All day I've been trying to find some tool that will convert to epub while preserving spaces. Haven't had any success yet.

I tried opening it with coolreader. Same problem there too.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:53 AM   #10
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Thanks for the suggestion. I downloaded it, but I don't find an extentions.cfg in my /system/config directory. The /system/bin directory was empty too. I copied the cr3.app into it. There was no /system/share directory either. So I created one and copied the contents of the share directory into it. When I click on the text file, I don't get a choice to open it with coolreader....
What am I doing wrong here?
You have to download extentions.cfg from here and put it to the /system/config directory.
There are several of them in various threads here. For example in thread http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65865
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Thanks for the reply! I've been playing around with calibre but I don't get the preserve spaces option. May be this was a new feature introduced and I've an older version of calibre?

$ ebook-convert --version
ebook-convert (calibre 0.6.42)
Good grief that's old! The current version is 0.7.50, i.e. the 50th release since version 0.7 began
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:38 PM   #12
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You have to download extentions.cfg from here and put it to the /system/config directory.
There are several of them in various threads here. For example in thread http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65865
I actually found a copy of it in my reader in a location that isn't exported over usb. There was a terminal app which I used and found out that the file was in /ebrmain/system/config. So with the terminal app I copied over the devices extentions.cfg itself over to the /system/config directory and had it edited. Now I'm able to open with coolreader. Unfortunately it didn't help with my formatting issues with txt.

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I actually found a copy of it in my reader in a location that isn't exported over usb. There was a terminal app which I used and found out that the file was in /ebrmain/system/config. So with the terminal app I copied over the devices extentions.cfg itself over to the /system/config directory and had it edited.
Excellent. That is how we got extentions.cfg for modifications. This just quite advanced stuff, so I was suggesting less correct but much simpler way of doing that.


FBRerader eating up spaces is an old problem. This is a feature, because in the vast majority of books multiple consecutive spaces are undesirable.

You might try:
1. in an advanced text editor replace <Space><Space> by <Space><Non-breakable-space> or similar characters.
2. making html out of those txt files.
Just open it in a good text editor and put <br> at the end of each line, or put <p> at the beginning of each line and </p> at the end of each line. This should be usable as a bare-bones html file. If it is not enough enclose entire text between <body><body> tags, insert simple header and enclose the entire thing in <html> and </html> tags.
3. You can also make an rtf file. Use monospaced fonts.
4. there is always the last resort of making a pdf with proper page size (90x115mm) and appropriate fonts and text sizes.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:07 AM   #14
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I tried the TXT file on both my PB360 and my Sony PRS650. I think Paolamanzini's assessment is correct, the problem is FBReader, as my Sony does not remove the leading spaces.

If you are a Calibre user you could try converting the TXT to EPUB. Calibre has a 'preserve spaces' option you could set. You would need to play around with Calibre's TXT Input conversion options until you produced an EPUB you were happy with.

Finally you would need to read the EPUB on your PB with the AdobeViewer app rather than FBReader.

I've attached a couple of screencaps of the EPUB on my PB360 using AdobeViewer.
How did you get this output? I downloaded the latest version of calibre. Checked the preserve spaces option in the txt input form. Output was set to EPUB and fired the convert. Still my resultant epub had the spaces truncated.
Was there anything else you had to do to get it to preserve the spaces?
It also seems to hang at the "converting to HTML.." stage. Which version of calibre are you using?
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If it's a txt file, why not reload into word/indesign/etc. and save out in a more appropriate format - after having converted the spaces to tabs, or tabs to spaces, or hard spaces instead of soft spaces, etc.

I used to do this for odd spacing, line returns, and characters to get books readable on my ebookwise when necessary.

And then you could always convert to ... PDF :/
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