Annoying extra blank pages

graycyn · 02-25-2011, 03:00 AM

I'm working on a "personal use" epub I'm making from a scanned book, and mostly have it looking like I want. I'm no expert with CSS, but it looks OK in ADE and works on my Nook.

However, after certain pages, there is a single extra blank page following and I don't know why! It's happening after the preface page, the titlepage, the copyright page, the dedication page and the contents page. It happens on my Nook and also in ADE.

It does NOT happen with any of the chapters. It does not happen after the cover page.

Is there some code I am missing to end a single page item properly so this does not happen? Each of these pages (preface, titlepage, dedication, content) is a separate xhtml file, so I thought it would behave like the chapters and just go straight from one page to the next, without blanks in between.

I just find it horribly annoying to see and have to turn past the blank pages, particularly after the dedication page, which consists of three words near the top of the page! Any idea how to stop this behavior and get rid of the extra blank page?

If it's a code thing, examples would help. I'm not super techy... 50+ year old housewife. CSS is like a whole 'nother planet, but I'm trying to learn, at least in a basic way. Thanks for any help or ideas!

P.S. Oh, it's late and maybe this would've been better in the epub forum? My bad... should not post when tired.

mrmikel · 02-25-2011, 05:18 AM

Look in code view and see what code is at the point where it gives a new page. Delete some and save as a new document. See if it works. Repeat using original and save with new name each time until fixed. Just to make sure, save original in additional different place on your hard drive so harder to make mistake of saving over.
BTW probably the snow that has you flustered.

Firepong · 02-25-2011, 12:30 PM

It might be a line break. LIke mrmikel said, look at it in code view and see what it does. Line breaks are different than chapter breaks as they just leave a blank page, like in your situation, instead of making a whole new chapter.

graycyn · 02-26-2011, 12:23 PM

Well, I had looked in the code view and the trouble is that I don't see anything untoward. And I've looked again and I still don't, but I'm a newbie to doing epub, so maybe there is something. I'll post examples.

Here, for instance, is what I have on the dedication page and other pages are pretty well the same, i.e. they end with a paragraph and the body and html tags. Which is exactly the way the chapters all end as well, only the problem doesn't happen there.

The single difference that I'm noting is that a class is assigned for the last paragraphs on the problem pages, where chapter pages are ending with strictly <p></p> tags, no class assigned.

Quote:

<body>
<h3 title="Dedication" class="toc" id="heading_id_2"> </h3>

<p class="dedication">For Dilla Macbean</p>
</body>
</html>

This is how the preface page ends:

Quote:

<p class="attribute"><em>—Library Journal</em></p>
</body>
</html>

How the titlepage ends:

Quote:

<div>
<p class="cities">NEW YORK • TORONTO • LONDON • SYDNEY • AUCKLAND</p>
</div>
</body>
</html>

Now here is how a chapter ends and this is the case for all the chapters, none of which have extra blank pages after.

Quote:

<p>Danny doubted it.</p>
</body>
</html>

Which gave me the idea to try ending the problem pages with a blank paragraph, as in:

Quote:

In case that would fix it. But I can report that adding a paragraph in any of the above manners with no class assigned makes no difference whatsoever, so I removed those. I remain mystified as to why things are behaving this way. All I can think is that it is the single pages that are causing the problem, yet I know I've seen other books that have dedication, preface, or other single pages without this sort of thing happening.

Jellby · 02-26-2011, 01:30 PM

Hmm... that markup should not be adding any blank page. There could be spurious pagebreaks at the beginning of some chapters, though. Is the Nook so stupid as to add a blank pages so that chapters start at odd-numbered (right) pages?

Perkin · 02-26-2011, 02:10 PM

You might also want to check for any extra css that may add page-break to the body tags of the affected files.

theducks · 02-26-2011, 03:55 PM

Graycyn
?
Is there a Stylesheet entry for div {
I noticed that the problem area starts or ends with a <div> or </div>

That div may have padding, margin or other attributes that cause a blank PAGE

02-25-2011, 03:00 AM	#1
graycyn Guru Posts: 652 Karma: 1381150 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NE Oregon Device: Sony 950, 350 & T1, SGP 5.0, Samsung Galaxy Note	Annoying extra blank pages I'm working on a "personal use" epub I'm making from a scanned book, and mostly have it looking like I want. I'm no expert with CSS, but it looks OK in ADE and works on my Nook. However, after certain pages, there is a single extra blank page following and I don't know why! It's happening after the preface page, the titlepage, the copyright page, the dedication page and the contents page. It happens on my Nook and also in ADE. It does NOT happen with any of the chapters. It does not happen after the cover page. Is there some code I am missing to end a single page item properly so this does not happen? Each of these pages (preface, titlepage, dedication, content) is a separate xhtml file, so I thought it would behave like the chapters and just go straight from one page to the next, without blanks in between. I just find it horribly annoying to see and have to turn past the blank pages, particularly after the dedication page, which consists of three words near the top of the page! Any idea how to stop this behavior and get rid of the extra blank page? If it's a code thing, examples would help. I'm not super techy... 50+ year old housewife. CSS is like a whole 'nother planet, but I'm trying to learn, at least in a basic way. Thanks for any help or ideas! P.S. Oh, it's late and maybe this would've been better in the epub forum? My bad... should not post when tired. Last edited by graycyn; 02-25-2011 at 03:41 AM. Reason: added sentence

02-26-2011, 03:55 PM	#7
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02-25-2011, 05:18 AM	#2
mrmikel Book Twiddler Posts: 958 Karma: 1087515 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Look in code view and see what code is at the point where it gives a new page. Delete some and save as a new document. See if it works. Repeat using original and save with new name each time until fixed. Just to make sure, save original in additional different place on your hard drive so harder to make mistake of saving over. BTW probably the snow that has you flustered.

02-25-2011, 12:30 PM	#3
Firepong Member Posts: 23 Karma: 30 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bay, AR Device: iPad, Pandigital Novel, Kindle DX	It might be a line break. LIke mrmikel said, look at it in code view and see what it does. Line breaks are different than chapter breaks as they just leave a blank page, like in your situation, instead of making a whole new chapter.

02-26-2011, 01:30 PM	#5
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 5,138 Karma: 2474345 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon	Hmm... that markup should not be adding any blank page. There could be spurious pagebreaks at the beginning of some chapters, though. Is the Nook so stupid as to add a blank pages so that chapters start at odd-numbered (right) pages?

02-26-2011, 02:10 PM	#6
Perkin Fanatic Posts: 552 Karma: 23783 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Kent, England, Sol 3, ZZ9 plural Z Alpha Device: Sony PRS-300	You might also want to check for any extra css that may add page-break to the body tags of the affected files.


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