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Old 02-19-2011, 05:07 AM   #1
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Converting problem...

Hi, I am using Calibre 0.7.46 to convert some pdf in mobi for my kindle.

Everything is fine except when I found truncated last words of the line ...

Check this url to get the idea.
http://i.imgur.com/GmeY2.png

[skipped words in the first part of the line] giardi-
no [rest of the line]

should be read as "giardino" (garden in italian).

I have tried to use a simple regex to get the "-<br>" tag away as calibre convert in this way:

Code:
La signorina Jane Marple sedeva vicino alla finestra che dava sul giardi-<br>
no, una volta fonte d'orgoglio per lei. Ma adesso non lo era più. Ora, guar-<br>
But it removes the "-<br>" But add a blank space so I get "giardi no".

What I am missing ?

Mobipocket creator works fine in convert but I'd like to use only calibre if possible.

Thanks very much for your attention.
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Old 02-19-2011, 05:36 AM   #2
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Your pdf source must be using a type of hyphenation that isn't commonly used. Open a bug with the book attached at bugs.calibre-ebook.com and it should be simple enough to resolve.
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Old 02-19-2011, 05:58 AM   #3
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.

I have opened the ticket and attached the pdf book.

It is here:
http://bugs.calibre-ebook.com/ticket/9047

Just out of curiosity.
It was possible to fix it by regular expression change ?
As I said I was not able to "delete" the pattern "-<br>", but only let it changed by a "space".


Thanks again for your attention.
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:02 AM   #4
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you could try -<br>\s*

I'll look at the file to see why Calibre wasn't fixing it in the first place.
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:20 AM   #5
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Code:
-<br>\s*
As fix it seems to work like a charm :-)
Thanks very much for it now
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:54 AM   #6
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I see that you close the ticket saying it doesn't happens to you.

I was not able to reply to the ticket, so I write here.

I have tried again also with default converter settings, but I got a lot of words with a dash in the middle where there was the hyphenation in the src pdf.

Not "giardino" anymore ... a lot of others.

As you can see in the link:
http://i.imgur.com/Ka098.png

I used the same file I sent to you with default converters settings.
Do you succeded in converting without these iusses using some different settings ?

Thanks again.
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:18 AM   #7
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If you continue to check the conversion I saw there are other iussues.

For example:

In the pdf there is a paragraph in this way:
Quote:
L'attrice si rivolse di nuovo a Heather con molta cortesia, benché con fa-
re più meccanico. «Davvero interessante quello che mi avete raccontato. E
ora, non volete qualcosa da bere? Jason? Un cocktail?»

The xml produced in the conversion is:

Quote:
<p class="calibre_20">L’attrice si rivolse di nuovo a Heather con molta cortesia, benché con fare più meccanico. «Davvero interessante quello che mi avete raccontato. E</p><p class="calibre_20">ora, non volete qualcosa da bere? Jason? Un cocktail?»</p>
"...che mi avete raccontato. E" is the last part of the line.

which continues with the next line:
"ora, non volete qualcosa da bere? Jason? Un cocktail?»"

but calibre divide the paragraph at the "E" which IMHO is wrong.

Only to let you know. Don't want to stress so much. :-)
Calibre is almost perfectly for my needs and it works great also with this little iussues that I think are to be addressed to the pdf format.

Thanks
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You can still add info to a ticket even when it's closed, and the people subscribed to the bug will get updates.

Based on your original report I thought the hyphens were being retained in all cases. The behavior you're seeing is by design. Hyphens can't be universally eliminated, as some words/phrases are always supposed to be hyphenated. The only way to decide what hyphens can be safely removed is to use a dictionary. However users all over the world use Calibre in many languages, and most books also use proper names, made up words, or scientific words which won't appear in any dictionary. In order to work around all that Calibre uses the book itself as its' dictionary. Hyphens are only removed if the word appears in the book without a hyphen. So those cases where there is still a hyphen means that word didn't occur a second time in the book. (alla may be an exception, a side affect of some recent work on reducing false positives)

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Originally Posted by gmarco View Post
If you continue to check the conversion I saw there are other iussues.


"...che mi avete raccontato. E" is the last part of the line.

which continues with the next line:
"ora, non volete qualcosa da bere? Jason? Un cocktail?»"

but calibre divide the paragraph at the "E" which IMHO is wrong.

Only to let you know. Don't want to stress so much. :-)
Calibre is almost perfectly for my needs and it works great also with this little iussues that I think are to be addressed to the pdf format.
Read the pdf faq:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118605
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:03 PM   #10
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Based on your original report I thought the hyphens were being retained in all cases. The behavior you're seeing is by design. Hyphens can't be universally eliminated, as some words/phrases are always supposed to be hyphenated. The only way to decide what hyphens can be safely removed is to use a dictionary. However users all over the world use Calibre in many languages, and most books also use proper names, made up words, or scientific words which won't appear in any dictionary. In order to work around all that Calibre uses the book itself as its' dictionary. Hyphens are only removed if the word appears in the book without a hyphen. So those cases where there is still a hyphen means that word didn't occur a second time in the book. (alla may be an exception, a side affect of some recent work on reducing false positives)
Understood. This is very smart modus operandi ...
BTW I used also your regular expression to remove the -<br> and the final work is perfect I have to say.

Thanks for the really appreciated esplanation.

P.s.
I am reading also the faq on pdf :-)
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