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Old 06-29-2007, 02:18 AM   #1
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When will there be a COLOR iLiad with larger screen (and higher resolution)?

AFAIK, eink already produced color epaper. I hope iRex will produce a color version of iLiad soon. And, with a larger screen and a higher resolution, since it's essential for reading academic documents.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:33 AM   #2
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AFAIK, eink already produced color epaper. I hope iRex will produce a color version of iLiad soon. And, with a larger screen and a higher resolution, since it's essential for reading academic documents.
With Adobe coming out with DE 1.0, once DE is finished for LInux, there should be no reason academic papers to be produced in PDF format. If these papers are meant to be read more then printed, then DE will be the way to publish them in the future and in that case, the iLiad as it is will be fine once it gets DE on board.
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With Adobe coming out with DE 1.0, once DE is finished for LInux, there should be no reason academic papers to be produced in PDF format. If these papers are meant to be read more then printed, then DE will be the way to publish them in the future and in that case, the iLiad as it is will be fine once it gets DE on board.
Could you explain what is 'DE 1.0' and why 'the iLiad as it is will be fine once it gets DE on board'?
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:15 AM   #4
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Could you explain what is 'DE 1.0' and why 'the iLiad as it is will be fine once it gets DE on board'?
DE 1.0 is Adobe Digital Editions 1.0

It's similar to Acrobat in the sense that it generates electronic documents to be distributed and read elsewhere, but instead of producing PDF documents, it produces EPUB documents.

PDF documents have a fixed output (for example, to be printed in A4 paper), while EPUB documents are reflowable in the same way that HTML pages are. So in EPUB documents you can change the font size, change the paper size et al. and it will re-adapt itself to look good using those parameters.

So, if people begin using EPUB docs instead of PDF docs when they're meant to be read without resorting to print them, the future will be bright and shiny :-).
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:00 AM   #5
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:20 AM   #6
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Colour eInk displays are probably several years away from commercial production. They have, I believe, only reached the "technology demonstration" stage at present.

Remember too that a colour device has inherently only 1/3 the resolution of an equivalent B&W device, because you need three pixels (R,G,B) in place of one. For applications such as reading eBooks, personally I'd rather have the existing eInk technology rather than a colour one with 1/3 the resolution.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:06 AM   #7
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The PDF Format is free .. I can speak for my university. They will still get PDF ... it´s (more or less) open and the format ist understandable.

In fact, DE understands PDF ... so what is the problem.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:58 AM   #8
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Personally I don't need color... I'd be a happy camper if E Ink further improved the contrast and brightness of the existing technology!
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:06 AM   #9
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In terms of DE 1.0, it wont change the format of academic papers from PDF - only customer demand will do this, currently I haven't read about any demand on library newswires ...

It will also mean the producers having to change their back end production systems and libraries who store files having to accommodate a new format ... this all takes both time and moneyso I woulnt hold your breath in the short term (next 2 years) for academic papers being in DE 1.0 format universally ...
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:18 AM   #10
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With Adobe coming out with DE 1.0, once DE is finished for LInux, there should be no reason academic papers to be produced in PDF format. If these papers are meant to be read more then printed, then DE will be the way to publish them in the future and in that case, the iLiad as it is will be fine once it gets DE on board.
There is one good reason academic papers will remain produced as PDF. It's complete integrated in their systems. Why would they update or save as another format when they've made PDF for decades?
Just saying that it's hard for people to change their ways.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:44 AM   #11
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Color eink works nicely. I have seen a sample. But is far from anything you would want in your reading device. Contrast still quite low. Resolution is one fourth of what the iLiad can do right now. And the price tag is far beyond anything funny at the moment.

I would say at least 5 years until we see something really usable and affordable in color eink for the consumer market.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:44 AM   #12
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You can download DE from here.

C'mon guys how can you forget to link up?
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The PDF Format is free .. I can speak for my university. They will still get PDF ... it´s (more or less) open and the format ist understandable.

In fact, DE understands PDF ... so what is the problem.
The "problem" is that a PDF file has a fixed "page size", eg A4 or US Letter. There's no ideal way to view such pages on devices with smaller page sizes, such as the Iliad or Sony Reader or, even worse, a PDA. With a "DE" document, the contents of the page "reflow" to fit the size of the device on which it's being viewed. A tremendous improvement.
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:56 AM   #14
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Well, "my academic documents" don't need colour, even the text books are in b&w, some with additional red ink to mark important paragraphs/equations.

Colour e-ink will be the next logical step; but when this will be buyable is another question.

A know problem is that the PR-guys are much too optimistic. They try to sell products which will exit in near future. Sometimes "near" are years.

Back to to this pdf/Adobe DE thing: the format in natural science academic world is pdf because it is a natural output of LaTeX. If you wanna be cute to your reader you will publish the source tex file, too. Then the reader can reflow content/generate a pdf with wanted dimension.
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... the format in natural science academic world is pdf because it is a natural output of LaTeX.
Is there any bar to an EPUB (DE) document also being a natural output of LaTeX?
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