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Old 02-11-2011, 09:12 PM   #16
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In any case that is irrelevant, as the embedded HTML toc is not used by the Kindle for periodicals. Try generating a calibre periodical for a news source with only one section to compare with the Instapaper one.
I've done that--Foreign Policy is one section. Running it throug ebook-convert to get an HTML version shows it's the same as a multi-section periodical, except there's only one section. In summary, the Instapaper file and the Calibre-generated file are very different--Instapaper uses H1 tags and Calibre uses ID tags to delineate articles. You seem to be suggesting Kindle auto-generates TOCs in all cases. If so, then the issue must be H1 versus ID tags, no?
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Incidentally, much as I like the look of the new 'Sections and Articles' list, I've found that if you click on 'View Articles List' at the bottom, then you can page through and navigate off to individual articles quite happily from there and BACK does return you to the correct point. The layout isn't quite so pretty but it might make life easier depending on how you navigate round your periodicals.
That's true--and this is how the prior Kindle s/w did it. The one drawback to this is (unlike previous Kindle s/w versions) you have to start at the first section and then move to the section index you want with the right button on the 5-way. Previously, you could pick the section you wanted and go there directly by putting the cursor under the number that indicated the number of articles in the section and clicking it. Now, if you click on the section name in the Sections & Articles view you get the first article in that section, and if you click on "View Articles List" you get the article list for the first section.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:30 PM   #18
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I've done that--Foreign Policy is one section. Running it throug ebook-convert to get an HTML version shows it's the same as a multi-section periodical, except there's only one section. In summary, the Instapaper file and the Calibre-generated file are very different--Instapaper uses H1 tags and Calibre uses ID tags to delineate articles. You seem to be suggesting Kindle auto-generates TOCs in all cases. If so, then the issue must be H1 versus ID tags, no?
No the TOC is embedded in the MOBI file in binary form. As far as I know, the Kindle *never* auto generates a TOC.
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No the TOC is embedded in the MOBI file in binary form. As far as I know, the Kindle *never* auto generates a TOC.
In that case, how can I examine the MOBI TOC to see what the differences are?
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:34 PM   #20
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In that case, how can I examine the MOBI TOC to see what the differences are?
You use a hex editor. Why do you think we love the MOBI format so much

But try PMing GRiker, he might have some tips on getting you started, this part of the MOBI output code is his.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:49 AM   #21
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Has anyone tried the "back" button behavior with a paid amazon subscription yet?
If it has the new behaviour then its a Kindle issue, otherwise it must be the way that Calibre codes periodicals in mobi.
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Old 02-24-2011, 11:54 AM   #22
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I tried it with a free trial Amazon subscription to The Independent, and it works as expected, i.e., selecting an article from the new contents page, then pressing Back from the article, returns to the position you were previously at in the contents list. So far it's only been Calibre-generated periodicals that dump me back at the top of the first section.
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Same results here as olliebean's. The back button works OK with Amazon subscriptions but not with calibre-fetched news.

The articles list generated by selecting 'View Articles List' at the bottom of the screen also appears to be broken in calibre news (it was initially working on my Kindle but not any more). Screenshots here.
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:31 PM   #24
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Does anyone know if there is a bug for tracking this issue in the Calibre bug tracker: http://bugs.calibre-ebook.com/query ? I tried searching for it but wasn't able to come up with anything.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:05 AM   #25
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:02 AM   #26
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Just to let those interested in this topic that nickredding and I have worked out some solutions to this problem. Check here for details.
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