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Old 02-01-2011, 11:36 AM   #1
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How much control does apple corp have?

If you absolutely had to have a software package that was not approved by apple corp and/or not available from apple, would you be able to install it on any of your apple hardware? How much control does apple corp have?
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:01 PM   #2
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That's the entire reason for jailbreaking, it allows people to install files without apple's signature.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:20 AM   #4
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If you absolutely had to have a software package that was not approved by apple corp and/or not available from apple, would you be able to install it on any of your apple hardware? How much control does apple corp have?
Assuming iOS devices, you can subscribe to the developer program and develop and install whatever program you want on I think up to 100 devices.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:56 AM   #5
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How much control does apple corp have?
None at all. But Apple Inc. has quite a lot.


Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:16 PM   #6
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Apple also has licensing that allows iOS applications to be loaded without going through iTunes Store approval (i.e. for enterprise deployment), and without jail-breaking. Of course, it costs something, and has other restrictions.
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:48 AM   #7
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How about OSX?
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:47 AM   #8
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For OS X, one can install any software which one wishes --- indeed, since OS X has opensource at its core, the availability of opensource software is quite good, including non-native software which uses X-Window.

Also, one can install Windows and dual-boot (or use Parallels to allow one to run Windows apps side-by-side w/ Mac OS X apps), or Linux and triple-boot. Moreover, there are a number of emulators available --- there was a story a while back about one computer science researcher who had some really large number of operating systems booting up on his Mac.

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Ah, to summarize if I have ios on my hardware then I have to pay extra for the right to buy from anyone I wish but if I had the forthought to chose osx then I can use what ever I want. Interesting, I love learning new things each day.

Does apple sell epub format? While I do not have apple hardware I have no qualms about adding the company to my list of electronic book stores that I buy from. Competition is good Proprietary is bad.
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Ah, to summarize if I have ios on my hardware then I have to pay extra for the right to buy from anyone I wish but if I had the forthought to chose osx then I can use what ever I want. Interesting, I love learning new things each day.

Does apple sell epub format? While I do not have apple hardware I have no qualms about adding the company to my list of electronic book stores that I buy from. Competition is good Proprietary is bad.
To buy books from the iBook store, you need an iOS device (iPad, iPhone, Touch). At this time, Apple has not released versions of iBooks for non-iOS devices.
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Ah, to summarize if I have ios on my hardware then I have to pay extra for the right to buy from anyone I wish but if I had the forthought to chose osx then I can use what ever I want.
That's not at all what is going on. If you have IOS, you can only buy apps from Apple's app store unless you jailbreak the device (which costs nothing). After jailbreaking, you can buy apps from anyone who sells IOS compatible programs. You don't have to pay "extra".

With OS X, you can buy from anyone who sells OS X compatible programs.
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Ah, to summarize if I have ios on my hardware then I have to pay extra for the right to buy from anyone I wish but if I had the forthought to chose osx then I can use what ever I want. Interesting, I love learning new things each day.
Just to make sure you understand: iOS runs on iPods, iPhones, iPads, while Mac OS X runs on Mac's.
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Ah, to summarize if I have ios on my hardware then I have to pay extra for the right to buy from anyone I wish but if I had the forthought to chose osx then I can use what ever I want. Interesting, I love learning new things each day.

Does apple sell epub format? While I do not have apple hardware I have no qualms about adding the company to my list of electronic book stores that I buy from. Competition is good Proprietary is bad.
pretty much yes that is exactly the issue at it's core.
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Does apple sell epub format? While I do not have apple hardware I have no qualms about adding the company to my list of electronic book stores that I buy from. Competition is good Proprietary is bad.
Apple does sell ePubs, but uses a unique DRM that can only be read by their iBooks app, and for which there are (currently) no removal tools.
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