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Old 01-01-2011, 05:10 PM   #1
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Calibre 7.36 Author Fields in Tag Browser is weird

Hi,

I have just upgraded to 7.36 and the Author Fields in the Tag Browser have changed. Instead of list all of the authors, now it builds a sub-category for each author. The sub category is the the initial of the author's first name. This makes a weird list. It looks like this:


>Authors
>D[1]
>R[1]
>R[1]
>K[1]
...


It goes on like this for all of my authors. It think this might be a bug in 7.36. I have tried messing with the tweaks, and I can get the fields in the sub-category to work off of author_sort or author, but it does not affect sub category problem I am seeing. Is there a stale file hanging around? Any advice?

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Old 01-01-2011, 05:18 PM   #2
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ok, the subcat labels are apparently from the first author in the subcat's first name. I expected that it would be 1 sub per author's last initial, but I've got 9 for A authors alone.

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Old 01-01-2011, 05:32 PM   #3
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You can turn off the subcategory feature by setting the tweak
Code:
categories_collapse_more_than = 0
You can display the authors in the tags browser in author_sort order using the tweak
Code:
categories_use_field_for_author_name = 'author_sort'
The separation (sub-categorization) is done using author sort, and I agree that the displayed letter should also be from the author sort. I use LN, FN author name order and didn't see the problem as I built this feature. I will change it.

If you wish, you can switch to the 'partition' mode and get names that make more sense. Use the tweaks
Code:
categories_collapse_model = 'partition'
categories_collapsed_name_template = '{first.sort:shorten(4,'',0)} - {last.sort:shorten(4,'',0)}'

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Old 01-01-2011, 06:32 PM   #4
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I turned it off (and I was going YES!... until... I have 400 Author names)
I expected it to collapse All "A" authors into 1 Level

What I saw was "L" (inside was "Lynn Abbey", the first author old style).

Even more bizarre appearing, was when I switched the browser to sort by popularity
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:39 PM   #5
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In the tweaks section I have added

categories_collapse_model = 'partition'
categories_collapse_more_than = 20
categories_collapsed_name_template = '{first.sort:} - {last.sort:}'
categories_use_field_for_author_name = 'author_sort'

This works best for me.

Personally, having to get to grips with the tweaks to bring order back is a disappointment and used up time I really didn't have spare. It is really annoying to have to get to grips with RegEx and tweaks like this. I prefer to see programs with new modes like this to default to no change at upgrade without the tweak, not a tweak required to tame the changes made by the upgrade. sorry, miffed here.

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Old 01-01-2011, 07:16 PM   #6
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I turned it off (and I was going YES!... until... I have 400 Author names)
I expected it to collapse All "A" authors into 1 Level

What I saw was "L" (inside was "Lynn Abbey", the first author old style).

Even more bizarre appearing, was when I switched the browser to sort by popularity
If you continue to see subcategories, then either you didn't turn it off or your installation is behaving different from mine.
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Old 01-01-2011, 07:18 PM   #7
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Man, this is a heck of a way to have to make my first post here.
Untill I just downloaded update 0.7.36, I was happy and already have over 400 books in my data base. Now, they mess it all up with the [1] catagory stuff.
My main problem is I don't know near enough yet to understand what you are talking about with the "tweaking" instructions.
My temporary (I hope) solution is, I'm going back to the .35 version as soon as I can find out how to get it, and I ain't budging from that spot until I can read here they removed, or made the way to get rid of it a lot easier.

Oh Yes, I do like the program, and I will be donating more, but I am very disapointed in this last development.

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Old 01-01-2011, 07:24 PM   #8
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Apologies to all for causing difficulties.

@oldbwl: you apparently decided that the changes were worth something, as you didn't simply turn them off.

@hijack: you can get the old versions of calibre at sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/calibre/files/
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If you continue to see subcategories, then either you didn't turn it off or your installation is behaving different from mine.
that was before I turned it OFF.

BTW, My Authors are FN LN and Library sort.
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:14 PM   #10
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Thanks. All of these suggestions worked. Looking forward to this being fixed in 7.36
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Old 01-01-2011, 08:53 PM   #11
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I use LN, FN author name order and didn't see the problem as I built this feature. I will change it.
My temporary (I hope) solution
I guess you didn't notice the creator of this update saying he didn't see the problem in testing and will fix it.

You can get older versions of calibre on Sourceforge.

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Thanks. All of these suggestions worked. Looking forward to this being fixed in 7.36
This is 0.7.36, looking for the fix in the next release.

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@oldbwl and @hijack,

I'm sure we're all sorry to hear of your "disappointment" and the "waste of your valuable time" incurred by updating to the new version of calibre.

However, I would have thought that anyone with a modicum of common sense would know that upgrading software within a couple of hours of release is likely to bite you in the rear-end every now and then. If you wish to avoid the pain, wait a few days, watch the forum and make sure there aren't any serious gremlins before you take the plunge.

Software development of something as complex as calibre is a tricky business. We get new features and bug fixes pretty much every week, free, gratis and for nothing. I only wish all my paid-for software worked this well.

If you have a problem, it usually suffices to state the problem rationally without moaning and whingeing. If it's a regression the fix normally arrives in a week or sometimes less.

As someone once said "Anyone who has never made a mistake has probably never made anything."

Still, look on the bright side, at least now you've heard of Tweaks.
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I really like this feature, the only thing that would make it better is if clicking the headers for each section would show all the books under that section in file listing.
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I like this feature too!

categories_collapsed_name_template = '{first.sort:shorten(10,'',0)} - {last.sort::shorten(10,'',0)}'
categories_collapse_model = 'partition'

I tweaked the partition name lengths to 10 (from 4), which i think works well because you can see most words or names in full at that length.

imo - , it would be nice to be able to switch modes with a right click sub-menu on the section heading. So could switch between old view and partition view without going to tweaks (my 2cents)

nice job on all the other improvements in this version !!!
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Personally, having to get to grips with the tweaks to bring order back is a disappointment and used up time I really didn't have spare.
If you don't have time to spare then you shouldn't grab every update within hours of its release. Calibre is a work in progress, read the change log there are New features and bug fixes every release.

Right off the bat the change log says,

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Release: 0.7.36 [01 Jan, 2010]

New Features
  • Tag browser: Add subcategories and search When a category has many items, it will be automatically split up. Also add a search to quickly find an item in the Tag Browser. The sub categories can be controlled via preferences->Tweaks. Also add a button to collapse all categories
This lets anyone know that you may have to use the tweaks section after this release to adjust this area.

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It is really annoying to have to get to grips with RegEx and tweaks like this.
If a error in sort didn't occur (which Chaley has said will be corrected in the next release) I don't see where any tweaks would be needed for the common user. Having lists collapse to a single alphabet letter is intuitive and very common.

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I prefer to see programs with new modes like this to default to no change at upgrade without the tweak, not a tweak required to tame the changes made by the upgrade. sorry, miffed here.
New Mode? Collapsing a list to a single alphabet letter isn't exactly new. When a better way to present information to the average user is developed then calibre will implement it. If this wasn't the case we would all still be using command line tools or the GUI from 0.4 or 0.5.

If you continue to upgrade willy-nilly without reviewing the change log then you're really giving up the right to be miffed in public. After all, the decision to upgrade in the face of possible tweaks was up to you.

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