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Old 12-10-2010, 03:19 AM   #1
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Das "undruckbare PDF" - der WWF lädt uns zum Diskutieren ein

Der WWF will, was ehrbar ist, Bäume retten und "erfindet" das "PDF dessen Inhalt nicht ausgedruckt werden kann".

1. Nun ja. Natürlich wird man können. Alles eine Frage der Technik.

2. Chris Meadows sagt dazu drüben bei TeleRead sehr treffend:

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A format that depicts exactly how a document will look when printed out, that you can’t print out? How extraordinary! Why, I’ve never heard of such a thing! Oh, no, wait. Yes I have.


3. Im Bestreben gewisse sog. "Internetausdrucker" ein wenig zu beschränken ja eigentlich gar keine so schlechte Initiative.
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Old 12-10-2010, 03:54 AM   #2
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Undruckbare PDFs gibt es schon, seit es Rechte und Verschlüsselung von PDFs gibt (fast so lange, wie es PDF gibt). Wozu eine separate Software und ein separates Format?
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Dann scannt man das PDF halt ab, schickt es durch OCR und druckt es doch wieder aus.

So sehr ich den WWF respektiere, aber scheint's hat die anhaltende Kälte doch ein paar Leute dort zugesetzt.
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Old 12-10-2010, 04:51 AM   #4
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PDF Ausdruck ist ja genauso verrückt wie Zeitungen kaufen.
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:21 AM   #5
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Undruckbare PDFs gibt es schon, seit es Rechte und Verschlüsselung von PDFs gibt (fast so lange, wie es PDF gibt). Wozu eine separate Software und ein separates Format?
Stimmt! Ich verstehe auch nicht wo da die Innovation sein soll.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:17 AM   #6
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Wenn ich den Blödsinn mit Bäume sparen nur höre, krieg ich die krätze. Schon mal davon gehört das es nachhaltigen Baumbestand gibt, für jeden gefällten Baum wird ein neuer geplanzt, die nächste Generation will auch noch Bäume verkaufen. Es gibt Waldbauern die davon leben und das nicht nur in Deutschland sonder überall, und Papier macht man aus schlechtern Bäumen und nicht aus hochwertigen. Die sollten sich lieber darum kümmern das der blödsinn mit Biosprit aufhört dafür werden zur zeit viele Bäume gefällt um Ölpalmen zu Pflanzen.
Ausserdem wird durch den blöden Biosprit das Tierfutter immer teurer.
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Nix, den Biospirt brauchen wir! Damit werden schließlich ökologisch die Maschinen betrieben, auf denen unsere Lesegeräte hergestellt werden!
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Ausserdem wird durch den blöden Biosprit das Tierfutter immer teurer.
Und vermutlich werden sich zukünftig dann auch die Nahrungsmittel der Menschen in den entsprechenden Regionen verknappen und somit verteuern, da ja das Erzeugen von Biosprit profitabler ist.
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letztens ist hier in der gegend ein Bioheizkraftwerk in die luft geflogen, auf einen km im Umkreis nur Sch...
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Fleisch wird auf jeden fall teuer, man füttert meisten Silage aus gepresstem Mais, heute landet der im Kraftwerk und wird verheizt. Dem Getreide geht es genau so, lieber den Weizen verheizen als Brot draus zu machen
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Nix, den Biospirt brauchen wir! Damit werden schließlich ökologisch die Maschinen betrieben, auf denen unsere Lesegeräte hergestellt werden!
Jawoll - ich werde noch den Tag verfluchen, an dem man mir Lesen beigebracht hat! Das soll an allem schuld sein
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3. Im Bestreben gewisse sog. "Internetausdrucker" ein wenig zu beschränken ja eigentlich gar keine so schlechte Initiative.
Da finde ich Initiativen wie Printfriendly sinnvoller

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Also ich habe mal ein Format gesehen, mit eigenem Programm, das konnte man wirklich nicht ausdrucken, hab auch im Internet nichts dazu gefunden, außer man hat wirklich nen Screenshot gedruckt -> umständlich.

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PDF Ausdruck ist ja genauso verrückt wie Zeitungen kaufen.
Ich wusste es, ich bin doch verrückt
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damit sollen die mal den Rollenspielern kommen... LOL

wenn die baumfreies Papier wollen - bitte schön es gibt ja Hanf. Was n blödsinn
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damit sollen die mal den Rollenspielern kommen... LOL

wenn die baumfreies Papier wollen - bitte schön es gibt ja Hanf. Was n blödsinn
Na ja, Zellulose is Zellulose, ma ganz ehrlich.
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