Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-15-2007, 11:26 PM   #1
vranghel
Addict
vranghel began at the beginning.
 
vranghel's Avatar
 
Posts: 285
Karma: 10
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Device: Proud Iliad owner
HP to present "e-book reader" featuring an intuitive interface

Another e-book reader goodness!

Quote:
Although there've been lots of eBooks the past year, none of them have had this HP concept that was demoed at the HP Mobility Summit. Instead of pressing a button to turn the page (which you can presumably still do) there are touch strips on the top, bottom, and sides of the ebook that you can slide to virtually turn the page.
HP to present ‘ebook reader’ featuring intuitive interface

[via Gizmodo]
vranghel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 12:23 AM   #2
NatCh
Gizmologist
NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
NatCh's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,605
Karma: 926222
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN
Device: Nook STGR
Interesting, it looks like an LCD screen to me ... anyone else have an opinion?

It seems to me we've seen that sort of flip-strip before ... or perhaps I'm constructing the memory based on "like to have" type discussions around here.
NatCh is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Enthusiast
Old 05-16-2007, 01:06 AM   #3
Bob Russell
Recovering Gadget Addict
Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bob Russell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Bob Russell's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,319
Karma: 590687
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Device: Note3, MacBook Air, iPad Air
I remember something like that also, but it may not have been from HP. Might be that it's the interface being highlighted, not the display.
Bob Russell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 06:22 AM   #4
astra
The Introvert
astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
astra's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,308
Karma: 1000077497
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500
It happened to me only once, but I laughed so hard!

A few days ago when I was reading a book (sony reader) I was immersed so deeply into the book that when I finish a page I tried to actually "turn" the page by reaching the top right corner of the reader and trying to turn the page. Obviously it didn't work and I started to do it again assuming that my fingers just slipped at the first attempt, only when I reached the corner of the reader and touched it again I realized what I was doing!!!
astra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 07:22 AM   #5
rexcrieg
Junior Member
rexcrieg began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 8
Karma: 10
Join Date: May 2007
Looks good, what does everyone think regarding color + video speed of this compared to grayscale slow eink? a la Irex Iliad? I think they both have their merits.

Thoughts?
rexcrieg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 08:13 AM   #6
yvanleterrible
When books can fly!
yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
yvanleterrible's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,501
Karma: 3600000
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Que Nada
Device: Kobo Mini in my lunchbox.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NatCh
Interesting, it looks like an LCD screen to me ... anyone else have an opinion?

It seems to me we've seen that sort of flip-strip before ... or perhaps I'm constructing the memory based on "like to have" type discussions around here.
It does have the silvery green tinge of LCD but the contrast ratio looks closer to eink's.
Eink is not limited to the actual proponents we know. I am sure that everydisplay lab across the world has some type of eink prototype being studied.
yvanleterrible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 08:28 AM   #7
yvanleterrible
When books can fly!
yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
yvanleterrible's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,501
Karma: 3600000
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Que Nada
Device: Kobo Mini in my lunchbox.
That screen is about the Sony's size, rotated.

I like the touch strips, it would allow reading from any position. That is good ergonomics. There is a drawback to it though. If its too sensitive, one will have a tendancy to wreak havoc in one's reading linearity by inadvertantly touching strips at the wrong time and place. That would make it hand under manipulation only.

Of course at this point in time the display should be colo(u)r!!!

The only drawback for me is it being HP. They're specialists at outdating their wares too quickly.
And what about their software being separate from the hardware? They usually get out of situations by blaming one against the other!
yvanleterrible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 08:39 AM   #8
astra
The Introvert
astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.astra ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
astra's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,308
Karma: 1000077497
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by yvanleterrible
That screen is about the Sony's size, rotated.

I like the touch strips, it would allow reading from any position. That is good ergonomics. There is a drawback to it though. If its too sensitive, one will have a tendancy to wreak havoc in one's reading linearity by inadvertantly touching strips at the wrong time and place.
There is a solution to the problem. They should make it so it is sensitive only to wet fingers and each time you want to turn a page you have to spit? on your fingers

Last edited by astra; 05-16-2007 at 08:42 AM.
astra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 08:48 AM   #9
rexcrieg
Junior Member
rexcrieg began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 8
Karma: 10
Join Date: May 2007
Been doing some digging, see here...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3173835.stm

It turns out this device was first demonstrated in 2003! (It seems) Imagine what they have in the pipeline by now????
rexcrieg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 09:32 AM   #10
NatCh
Gizmologist
NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.NatCh ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
NatCh's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,605
Karma: 926222
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN
Device: Nook STGR
Quote:
Originally Posted by rexcrieg
Looks good, what does everyone think regarding color + video speed of this compared to grayscale slow eink? a la Irex Iliad? I think they both have their merits.

Thoughts?
The biggest drawback to LCD is the dismal battery life it affords, particularly compared to e-ink.

The second biggest is that a lot of people find staring at the backlight uncomfortable.
NatCh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 10:46 AM   #11
nekokami
fruminous edugeek
nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.nekokami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
nekokami's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,745
Karma: 551260
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Northeast US
Device: iPad, eBw 1150
Very funny, astra_lestat.

I'd rather a touch screen with fingertip sensor than strips along the edge. I think Yvan is right, it would make it too hard to hold onto the thing. Plus a touch screen can be used for lots of other functions, whereas edge strips are pretty limited in value for the amount of tech required.
nekokami is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 02:36 PM   #12
bingle
Addict
bingle has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bingle has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bingle has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bingle has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.bingle has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
Posts: 273
Karma: 499
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: San Francisco
Device: Sony Reader
Well, it's cool tech... but am I the only person who thinks that we don't need to maintain *every* aspect of reading books? I personally like the clean, easy, digital nature of pressing a single button to turn a page.

To me, this is like putting reins on a car so it drives more like a horse ;-P
bingle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 03:00 PM   #13
yvanleterrible
When books can fly!
yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.yvanleterrible ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
yvanleterrible's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,501
Karma: 3600000
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Que Nada
Device: Kobo Mini in my lunchbox.
I can just picture that! Two leather straps on the steering wheel and the driver in the back seat!

I like buttons too but they're never at the right place. It's like those designers only read seated with two hands holing the device. Actually that might be their lab's fault. They have nowhere to lay down and try the design.

Wouldn't you agree that an ebook reader should be usable with just one hand? There are no pages to turn for peoples sake!
yvanleterrible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 03:23 PM   #14
vranghel
Addict
vranghel began at the beginning.
 
vranghel's Avatar
 
Posts: 285
Karma: 10
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Device: Proud Iliad owner
Quote:
Originally Posted by rexcrieg
Been doing some digging, see here...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3173835.stm

It turns out this device was first demonstrated in 2003! (It seems) Imagine what they have in the pipeline by now????

The pics in the article looks like the screen is LCD (theres some backlighting visible)

By recreating the 'paper-book reading experience' they're making things unneccesarily complicated for both themselves and the end-users.
vranghel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2007, 05:11 PM   #15
delphidb96
Wizard
delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 3,000
Karma: 300001
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V
If it *is* e-ink, think of the problems. First there's the whole 'it takes a half second or more to update the page' problem. Then there's the 'every page-flip sucks out power' problem. And there's the "you can't efficiently scroll an e-ink screen' problem. Nope. Not a good think for an e-ink device. I can see it working well with an LCD though. Although I must admit that having to get that level of sensitivity in my ham-sized thumbs and fingers would probably drive me to shatter the danged thing over my knee within a few days.

Derek
delphidb96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"First Wave" - A New Comic Book Series Featuring Doc Savage Solitaire1 Reading Recommendations 3 03-02-2010 12:13 AM
"A new network interface has been detected" when connecting my BeBook to my Mac bigmoney BeBook 2 09-07-2009 04:13 PM
Fictionwise "Buywise" club better than free at present - NOW ENDED HarryT Deals, Freebies, and Resources (No Self-Promotion) 79 09-19-2008 01:06 PM
Brother Japan to present an A5 "Electronic Document Reader" igorsk News 20 09-05-2008 08:20 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:04 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.