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Old 06-09-2007, 10:12 PM   #31
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I'll give the zip file a run in Windows... I tested the 2.0 version in Windows but probably didn't do 2.0.1.

But just for a heads-up, I should have the next version out on Sunday. It fixes the above "<<" issue, and adds a few other features.

The pylrs-1.0.1 is part of the installation (it's in the "packages" directory), and is automatically installed when your run the installer in the pielrf directory itself. I did test it in Windows!
[indent]python setup.py install[/i]

This did require command line, but I don't know any other way to do it.

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Old 06-09-2007, 10:16 PM   #32
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I'll give the zip file a run in Windows... I tested the 2.0 version in Windows but probably didn't do 2.0.1.

But just for a heads-up, I should have the next version out on Sunday. It fixes the above "<<" issue, and adds a few other features.

The pylrs-1.0.1 is part of the installation (it's in the "packages" directory), and is automatically installed when your run the installer in the pielrf directory itself. I did test it in Windows!
[indent]python setup.py install[/i]

This did require command line, but I don't know any other way to do it.

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I don't have any issues with using the command line. What I would like is to know the commands to convert a CLIT output HTML from LIT format. Either it's not working or I'm doing something wrong. I have no idea.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:22 PM   #33
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I don't have any issues with using the command line. What I would like is to know the commands to convert a CLIT output HTML from LIT format. Either it's not working or I'm doing something wrong. I have no idea.
Okay.

There's two approaches.

First you can just trust that pielrf does the right thing, and use the "--strip-html" command line switch. This will run pielrf as usual, and strip out any of the html it doesn't know.

The second is to use the striphtml utility before running pielrf. This will do the exact same thing as "--strip-html" but output another text file for you to look at / edit.

I prefer pre-stripping with striphtml and then editing that file and feeding it to pielrf. CLIT creates pretty complex HTML, and if you want to add the "<chapter>" tags, pre-stripping makes that a lot easier. It also allows you to clean up any HTML that striphtml didn't get rid of.

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Old 06-10-2007, 12:25 PM   #34
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Is there a comma in any of the file names in the ZIP file? If there is, that "breaks" the built-in Windows unzipper.
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:10 PM   #35
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No commas in any file names... and this is one of those evil "it works for me" posts.

I downloaded the pielrf-2.0.3.zip file at the top of this thread.

Using WinXP, I Right-Clicked the "pielrf-2.0.3.zip" file and selected "Extract All..." This gives me a "Welcome to the Compressed (zipped) Folders Extraction Wizard." Clicking "Next>" a couple of times unzips me a "pielrf-2.0.3" folder.

If I go into the "pielrf-2.0.3" folder, there is a "pielrf-2.0.3" folder in there (no, that wasn't a typo! ). Opening THAT "pielrf-2.0.3" folder shows the correct contents, with the README, pielrf and striphtml commands, plus the setup.py, plus the "examples" and "packages" subdirectories, et cetera.

Could it be the dual "pielrf-2.0.3" folders were the problem?

EDIT: Just realized that I used the Mac to download, transferred to parallels and unzipped there. Maybe it's IE that's the problem? I'm off for a bit, but I'll try that later.

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Old 06-10-2007, 03:25 PM   #36
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Maybe it is IE. But this is the only ZIP file I've had an issue using Windows Explorer. The other issue I have is the file extensions. All Python code under Windows needs to have a .py extension. You run the code by typing filename.py and then it runs it under Python.

If you'd like, I can send you some HTML output from CLIT and see how you get on converting it if you'd like.
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Old 06-10-2007, 06:49 PM   #37
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Maybe it is IE. But this is the only ZIP file I've had an issue using Windows Explorer. The other issue I have is the file extensions. All Python code under Windows needs to have a .py extension. You run the code by typing filename.py and then it runs it under Python.

If you'd like, I can send you some HTML output from CLIT and see how you get on converting it if you'd like.
Yeah go ahead and PM me the file(s). I haven't thoroughly tested the CLIT stiff, and I know it generates a wide variety of HTML.

In terms of the .py extension, your other choice is the precede the command with "python":
python pielrf -i infile.txt -o outfile.lrf -t "Book" ...
I realize it's extra typing, and not as "clean" but it gets the job done.

I still have to give it a go in IE, and I'll let you know. I use the Mac's built-in zip compression, but I have other programs to create zips, so I'll probably just use one of them from now on.

EDIT: IE Worked okay. I'll use a different zip utility for the new version when I post it.

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:03 PM   #38
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Had some optimization issues with the new version, so I'm a bit delayed.

Definitely should be fixed in the next few days.

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Hopefully with a perfect CLIT HTML conversion as well.

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:37 PM   #40
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Hopefully with a perfect CLIT HTML conversion as well.

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To be honest, depending on the complexity of the HTML you sent me (which I did receive), that may have to wait until the next version. I have some promised features that are overdue, and I want to get them out as soon as get the LRF optimized a bit more (it needs to at least match 2.0.3 in terms of load speed).

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To be honest, depending on the complexity of the HTML you sent me (which I did receive), that may have to wait until the next version. I have some promised features that are overdue, and I want to get them out as soon as get the LRF optimized a bit more (it needs to at least match 2.0.3 in terms of load speed).

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Not a problem. But can I ask that the new version be tested on a Windows environment (XP Please) so you can sort out the issues with the install and filename extensions? Thanks!

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Not a problem. But can I ask that the new version be tested on a Windows environment (XP Please) so you can sort out the issues with the install and filename extensions? Thanks!

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Indeed, I certainly plan to do so. I have already tested one zip utility and it seemed to work fine.

I am actually not sure what I want to do about the file extension. I prefer to keep it off, since it executes as a script correctly under Mac OS X and Linux (or any other UNIX supporting python). Windows requires you to either add the extension -- as you're suggesting -- or type "python" first.

While adding two letters isn't a big deal, the ".py" extension suggests a "library" as opposed to an executable command. Leaving it off means Windows users have to type "python" first, while putting it on means UNIX users may interpret it as a library function rather than an executable.

I'd love to hear what others think. This kind of issue is exactly why this thread exists!

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Pie have you considered making a windows executable with py2exe?
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Well, the way python installs and sets itself up, you have to type the path to python in a Windows command prompt to callthe python command as it's not made part of the path. So for people who do not know the command line well enough, this will be an issue and adding the extention will fix this for them. I say to just do it let the linux/MAC people deal.
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Thanks kovid, I'll definitely look into this. Because...

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Well, the way python installs and sets itself up, you have to type the path to python in a Windows command prompt to callthe python command as it's not made part of the path. So for people who do not know the command line well enough, this will be an issue and adding the extention will fix this for them. I say to just do it let the linux/MAC people deal.
Turns out renaming with .py won't work at all at this point. This is because I named the library "pielrf"... and when you run "pielrf.py" and it tells python to look for the pielrf library, python looks in the current directory first, finding "pielrf.py" ... the executable you just ran. All sorts of mayhem ensues.

You're absolutely right about this being an important "feature," as it does make the Windows execute with python without having to know any path rigamarole. I'll figure out a solution, but it's going to have to wait until my next release (renaming the library, for example, is more than I want to do this time around).

At this point, I'm going to post a test download so I can check out the .zip file, and after I get that checked out, I'll post the current, and long-delayed, update.

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PS I can see why you want Linux/Mac people to deal... Poor windows users have to deal all the time, and they get really tired of it... or so I hear. Kidding.... Kidding...
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