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Old 11-04-2010, 07:23 PM   #1
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Nook And Kindle Page Changing Question

I was in the local Barnes & Noble today messing with the Nook when I noticed one severe flaw that gets on my nerves and that is the way it changes pages. It looks like the next page emerges from underneath the prior and then it turns black, flashes and you have the next page. This all happens within a second or so but that emerging page and the flash annoy me. Im much more used to it seeming like a real sheet of paper, like it does when one uses Stanza on the iTouch or iPhone. I asked the man about this and he said that the Nook uses e-ink and all of the readers that use it change pages that way. Im not sure but I havent seen a Kindle in action. Those with a Kindle, does the page turn that way? Is it as annoying or is it just me?
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:47 PM   #2
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If you have a BN near you, you undoubtedly have a Target, or Best Buy as well.......they are now carrying Kindles, so you can see for yourself.

Personally, I don't notice any 'flash'....the pages turn to quickly.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:59 PM   #3
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I don't know about the kindle, but the sony does the flashing thing too. I'm pretty sure it is an e-ink thing. The first time I saw it I didn't like it either, but I got used to it surprisingly fast.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:07 PM   #4
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They all have some degree of "flash." It's how e-ink devices refresh the screen.

It may seem annoying at first, but most of us get used to it within a few days. I don't even notice it anymore.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:10 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=desertgrandma;1199256]If you have a BN near you, you undoubtedly have a Target, or Best Buy as well.......they are now carrying Kindles, so you can see for yourself.

Seriously you must have a different Kindle then everyone else because all e-ink flashes when changing pages, or maybe your post was intentionally misleading.

Here is a YouTube of the kindle3 page turns, very fast but they do flash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7nbLl9X__o

The flash is inherent to e-ink screens. The Nook is getting an update this month that will increase page turn speed on the Nook. I have no idea if it will match the Kindle 3 which is nice and speedy but I am afraid the flash is part of the deal with e-ink, at least in current devices including the Kindle 3.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:22 PM   #6
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Seriously you must have a different Kindle then everyone else because all e-ink flashes when changing pages, or maybe your post was intentionally misleading.
The flash is inherent to e-ink screens. The Nook is getting an update this month that will increase page turn speed on the Nook. I have no idea if it will match the Kindle 3 which is nice and speedy but I am afraid the flash is part of the deal with e-ink, at least in current devices including the Kindle 3.
Excuse me?

Perception is everything. When I am reading on my K3, I seriously do not see the flashes......the page turns very quickly, and I probably blink or something, or I"ve become so accustomed to it that it no longer registers.

Or maybe I'm so into the story it doesn't register.

My point is.....it may be there, but I don't have to see it.....

Now....when downloading books, there is some serious flashing going on as they arrive.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:35 PM   #7
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My Kindle flashes like that when it changes pages. It doesn't bother me.
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NVash asked
“Those with a Kindle, does the page turn that way? Is it as annoying or is it just me?”

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“Personally, I don't notice any 'flash'....the pages turn to quickly.”

This was clearly a question about how e-ink has a negative flash when resetting the screen for the next page. Your answer was clearly misleading to a person who is unaware of how e-ink devices work.

My point is you may have made a misleading statement but I do not have to agree with it…
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:32 AM   #9
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All eInk screens work this way. It's not a computer screen, it's a completely different display technology altogether.

As others have mentioned, you get used to it very quickly.

If you are concerned, then just wait a few days before buying books for it. There are plenty of free books out there. If the flashes continue to bug you after a few days, you can return the device.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:50 AM   #10
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I find the flash no more irritating than turning a physical page. The last time I really noticed the flash was before the 3.0.3 upgrade when some Kindles were experiencing slow page turns when in very warm environments. On the whole, the flash doesn't really register to me.
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:46 AM   #11
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I find the flash no more irritating than turning a physical page. The last time I really noticed the flash was before the 3.0.3 upgrade when some Kindles were experiencing slow page turns when in very warm environments. On the whole, the flash doesn't really register to me.
Ditto
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:08 AM   #12
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This was a main concern of mine when initially looking for an eReader after seeing the slower page turn of the Kobo. I don't even notice the page turn on my Kindle 3 anymore.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:34 AM   #13
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The k3 flashes, the Sony Prs-300 flashes. I'd imagine all e-ink devices flash when you turn the page. However I never notice it when using my Kindle or Sony. It happens so quickly.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:50 AM   #14
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I only notice the flash if I'm going from a graphics intensive page to another page (text or graphics). On older devices/firmware the "ghosting" effect was more annoying. This is when the page isn't completely refreshed and you can faintly see the previous page. On the Kindle Alt-G still works to refresh the screen.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:53 AM   #15
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You know I have walked throughout both my local Target and Best Buy and havent seen so much as even an ad for a Kindle. I wasnt looking for it at the time but even so, something like that should stand out like a sore thumb. In Barnes & Noble they have a huge display and a kiosk in front of it with someone either standing there or next to it to help you out if you so desire. Its right in front of the entrance so you see it but even walking around the store its obvious its right there. Maybe these stores just prefer to let the Kindle sell itself since they arent affiliated with Amazon. Ill ask around next time and see if I can find it.

I also forgot to mention but I see its been said here already. The clerk told me of the update they should be getting soon which will make the Nooks pages turn faster. From looking at that video it seems the Kindle has it beat hands down. Maybe I had a faulty version but the thing looked like it moved in slow-motion.
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