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Old 10-25-2010, 07:56 AM   #31
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But that doesn't mean that every forum has to debate them.
MobileRead was intended for purposes that religion and politics are only tangentially associated with. I have some reservations about the decision, but I think it is an improvement for most members (many of whom may just want a respite somewhere from the ubiquity of these issues).
I've been avoiding the lounge lately because of this. I'm sick and tired of these endless discussions that go nowhere... I really applaud this decision!
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:05 AM   #32
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Excellent idea, Alexander. I'm particularly pleased that the default is "opt out" until you consciously opt in. I should paint the "opt in" button bright red on my monitor.
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I'm not, but I do enjoy it from time to time
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:31 AM   #34
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Thanks. This is a big enough forum to get through without being sidetracked by subjects more effectively discussed in forums specifically dedicated to them. I belong to several that I visit when time allows. But MR must maintain its specialised focus just as these other subject-dedicated sites do.

That the threads in question may be of interest to writers and readers in certain spheres may be true, but where do we stop -- do we also discuss the morality of genetic engineering, gambling, fifteenth-century Armenian architecture, hypnosis, the validity of third encounter accounts from those who claim to have been abducted by aliens, how to prepare the perfect Elizabethan banquet, camping tips, martial arts, flower-arrangement, etc, etc, etc, too?

Opt-out as default is, I think, a wise and generous decision by the team.

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Old 10-25-2010, 08:35 AM   #35
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Great idea!!!

This should serve to keep the lounge a more light-hearted and friendly place for people that are dropping by to unwind, while giving the hardened debaters a place to go to discuss the more serious things.

I'll probably opt in and lurk
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:43 AM   #36
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Great idea!!!

This should serve to keep the lounge a more light-hearted and friendly place for people that are dropping by to unwind, while giving the hardened debaters a place to go to discuss the more serious things.

I'll probably opt in and lurk
The purpose of the Lounge, as its description says, is: "lighthearted banter and discussions unrelated to ebooks" (emphasis mine). This new forum certainly won't remove the role of the Lounge as a forum for serious debate; it simply move two specific subject areas (politics and religion) into their own forum. The Lounge will remain the place to discuss other subjects unrelated to ebooks.
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I wasn't aware that this forum had King Solomon as an admin.

This really does seem to be a very good solution to a perenially thorny problem on any web forum I've ever participated in. Those who want that discussion can easily have it, those who prefer to avoid flamewars (which religious and political discussions tend to become, given the depth of emotion and commitment those topics inspire) don't have to deal with it.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:03 AM   #39
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Look at the high number of posts/pages those threads have. That traffic is a good thing.
I will get the excel ready and verify the traffic orgin on some of these threads. I am guessing that it is generally the same 4-6 people and not somewhere new people even post. (not that it matters)

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I really do think that this is a great idea. I probably will join but not actually participate (since I think a lot of you are on crack. ---jk) Maybe we should also include DRM / Pirating debates to the list? *shrug*

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Seriously though, the mods use to delete a lot of the religious and political threads. Now they can all stay open. I do not consider this censorship at all. I consider this compromise.
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This may also force some new members out of lurkers.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:11 AM   #42
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Good decision!

Although I am concerned about this "collective hive mind" buzzing away in the background. It sends a shiver up my spine.
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I wonder what poor mod is going to get the crap job of keeping that place running smoothly.





Are you going to start a "Are Chickens Being Attacked in America" thread?
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Although I am concerned about this "collective hive mind" buzzing away in the background. It sends a shiver up my spine.
Perhaps we should refer to all mods as the Borg Collective?
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