Links to URLs work, internal links don't? - Page 2

NewDay · 10-20-2010, 01:26 PM

Jellby, I tried substituting the %20 between words in the file name. No luck. What am I doing wrong here? It gives me "referenced resource missing in package" whether I add hyphens between words, run them all together, or add the %20. ???

charleski · 10-20-2010, 05:39 PM

ADE-based readers can handle filenames with spaces without any problem, but iBooks can't. You can fiddle around adding %20s, but the easiest thing is just to remove spaces from the filename.

Adjust · 10-20-2010, 06:08 PM

Yeah the problem is you have to treat iBooks as a new completely different reader, insofar as it refuses to follow the ePub specs which everyone else does, case in point, sans-serif fonts inside div, span, p classes...

Once you get it to work and know all the idiosyncrasys of the iBooks, the other readers will fall into place...

eg. this goes from the text to the Notes.xhtml file
<a id="anchor-50-anchor" /><span class="superscript"><a href="Notes.xhtml#anchor-57-anchor">1</a>

This goes from the Notes back to text file
<a id="anchor-57-anchor" /><p class="x-notes-text"><span class="superscript"><a href="Chapter_6.xhtml#anchor-50-anchor">1</a>

NewDay · 10-20-2010, 08:12 PM

I see you used an underscore between Chapter and 6. Makes sense, 'cause then it reads as one without the confusion of words running together.

Adjust · 10-20-2010, 08:26 PM

Yes, but that's for my own sanity more then anything else. I just don't like seeing the %20 in the code...

Another way to write the name without the spaces is by using capitals, for example

forexamplethislineishardtoread...ComparedWithThisL ine

NewDay · 10-20-2010, 09:52 PM

I like your underscores better.

charleski · 10-21-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDay

Jellby, I tried substituting the %20 between words in the file name. No luck. What am I doing wrong here? It gives me "referenced resource missing in package" whether I add hyphens between words, run them all together, or add the %20. ???

You'll need to change the filenames in the opf file as well.

Fabe · 10-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDay

Jelby, I took the file designation literally, stroke by stroke, from the xhtml files as they are expressed in the OEBPS. Should I add hyphens between words in the file name?

1. My File Name Here Now - original
2. My_File_Name_Here_Now - good practice
3. My%20File%20Name%20Here%20Now - typical output for spaces

-Fabe

NewDay · 10-22-2010, 09:39 AM

Fabe, thank you. Nice presentation.

wannabee · 10-23-2010, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valloric

Wait, you're telling me that InDesign will split files without updating links? That's absolutely insane. It makes any file-splitting feature completely and utterly useless.

It's just easier to stay with CS4. (CS5 was a waste, seeing as it was purchased explicitly for ePub export) CS4 doesn't wreck the links. I call the file names exactly what I want in the TOC and let InDesign create the TOC from the files names. CS4 replaces the spaces with %20 to all the code and it works fine.

NewDay · 10-23-2010, 06:54 PM

I want my money back!

Adjust · 10-24-2010, 05:57 AM

The one good thing I use it for, is for epubs with alot of images.
CS3 tends to repeat all the images used in the job depending on how many chapters there were... CS5 cleans them out

NewDay · 10-25-2010, 10:59 PM

Clever ploy, Adjust. btw, I overcame that linking problem by establishing a category of "finder" (in this case, Recipe Finder) that used internal hyperlinks within the same file. That overcame the losing-them-across-files problem, and streamlined the nav toc to boot.

wannabee · 10-26-2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDay

Clever ploy, Adjust. btw, I overcame that linking problem by establishing a category of "finder" (in this case, Recipe Finder) that used internal hyperlinks within the same file. That overcame the losing-them-across-files problem, and streamlined the nav toc to boot.

What sort of magic is that? Where is it learned? Who do you have to pay? But multiple files for the chapters right?

NewDay · 10-26-2010, 10:29 AM

It's called Fiddle-and-Fix-It. This is a cookbook. Cookbooks need good indexes. Best index for an ereader is hyperlinks. Mention a recipe and Bang! hyperlink takes you right there.

Links across chapters still didn't work, but here's what I did finally get to function: The whole cookbook is in one document, but InDesign split the files according to chapters (Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Side Dishes, Cookies, Dessert, Dog Treats...you get the idea). Each chapter is a Level One heading in the toc.

Back at the Fiddle-and-Fix-It level, at the beginning of each chapter I created a rubric called Recipe Finder, which I gave a Level 2 heading. Breakfast chapter begins with a very brief discussion on the first page, then on the second page we find Breakfast Recipe Finder, which lists the breakfast recipes alphabetically, with a hyperlink to each recipe within that chapter (file). The toc reads heirarchically: Breakfasts, Breakfast Recipe Finder; Lunches, Lunch Recipe Finder; and so on.

Now if I can just find how to get the toc to actually STACK level two underneath level one, I'll be going live with this. Right now, iBooks is blithely ignoring my h1, h2 commands. Anybody got any ideas?

10-24-2010, 05:57 AM	#27
Adjust Addict Posts: 351 Karma: 70000 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Device: ADE, iPad	The one good thing I use it for, is for epubs with alot of images. CS3 tends to repeat all the images used in the job depending on how many chapters there were... CS5 cleans them out Last edited by Adjust; 10-24-2010 at 06:31 PM.

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10-20-2010, 01:26 PM	#16
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	Jellby, I tried substituting the %20 between words in the file name. No luck. What am I doing wrong here? It gives me "referenced resource missing in package" whether I add hyphens between words, run them all together, or add the %20. ???

10-20-2010, 05:39 PM	#17
charleski Wizard Posts: 1,196 Karma: 1281258 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505	ADE-based readers can handle filenames with spaces without any problem, but iBooks can't. You can fiddle around adding %20s, but the easiest thing is just to remove spaces from the filename.

10-20-2010, 06:08 PM	#18
Adjust Addict Posts: 351 Karma: 70000 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Device: ADE, iPad	Yeah the problem is you have to treat iBooks as a new completely different reader, insofar as it refuses to follow the ePub specs which everyone else does, case in point, sans-serif fonts inside div, span, p classes... Once you get it to work and know all the idiosyncrasys of the iBooks, the other readers will fall into place... eg. this goes from the text to the Notes.xhtml file <a id="anchor-50-anchor" /><span class="superscript"><a href="Notes.xhtml#anchor-57-anchor">1</a> This goes from the Notes back to text file <a id="anchor-57-anchor" /><p class="x-notes-text"><span class="superscript"><a href="Chapter_6.xhtml#anchor-50-anchor">1</a>

10-20-2010, 08:12 PM	#19
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	I see you used an underscore between Chapter and 6. Makes sense, 'cause then it reads as one without the confusion of words running together.

10-20-2010, 08:26 PM	#20
Adjust Addict Posts: 351 Karma: 70000 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Device: ADE, iPad	Yes, but that's for my own sanity more then anything else. I just don't like seeing the %20 in the code... Another way to write the name without the spaces is by using capitals, for example forexamplethislineishardtoread...ComparedWithThisL ine

10-20-2010, 09:52 PM	#21
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	I like your underscores better.

10-22-2010, 09:39 AM	#24
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	Fabe, thank you. Nice presentation.

10-23-2010, 06:54 PM	#26
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	I want my money back!

10-25-2010, 10:59 PM	#28
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	Clever ploy, Adjust. btw, I overcame that linking problem by establishing a category of "finder" (in this case, Recipe Finder) that used internal hyperlinks within the same file. That overcame the losing-them-across-files problem, and streamlined the nav toc to boot.

10-26-2010, 10:29 AM	#30
NewDay Connoisseur Posts: 59 Karma: 100 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern California, in the redwoods by the ocean Device: iPad	It's called Fiddle-and-Fix-It. This is a cookbook. Cookbooks need good indexes. Best index for an ereader is hyperlinks. Mention a recipe and Bang! hyperlink takes you right there. Links across chapters still didn't work, but here's what I did finally get to function: The whole cookbook is in one document, but InDesign split the files according to chapters (Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Side Dishes, Cookies, Dessert, Dog Treats...you get the idea). Each chapter is a Level One heading in the toc. Back at the Fiddle-and-Fix-It level, at the beginning of each chapter I created a rubric called Recipe Finder, which I gave a Level 2 heading. Breakfast chapter begins with a very brief discussion on the first page, then on the second page we find Breakfast Recipe Finder, which lists the breakfast recipes alphabetically, with a hyperlink to each recipe within that chapter (file). The toc reads heirarchically: Breakfasts, Breakfast Recipe Finder; Lunches, Lunch Recipe Finder; and so on. Now if I can just find how to get the toc to actually STACK level two underneath level one, I'll be going live with this. Right now, iBooks is blithely ignoring my h1, h2 commands. Anybody got any ideas?

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