Firmware 6.3 and its bugs!

[Skydog]

Something else I discovered with the pdocs/cover problem. I sent a few mobis, via email, to my pdocs while the same books were already on the regular bookshelf. Surprise - the pdoc covers appeared normally under Documents and on the carousel.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by Skydog

Something else I discovered with the pdocs/cover problem. I sent a few mobis, via email, to my pdocs while the same books were already on the regular bookshelf. Surprise - the pdoc covers appeared normally under Documents and on the carousel.

Were these sideloaded books or Amazon books?

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by Blossom

Were these sideloaded books or Amazon books?

All were side-loaded that had been converted from epub.

Side note: I did not check but assume the cover dimensions were within the max that will display as a pdoc.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by Skydog

All were side-loaded that had been converted from epub.

Side note: I did not check but assume the cover dimensions were within the max that will display as a pdoc.

Thanks off to try it!

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by Skydog

Something else I discovered with the pdocs/cover problem. I sent a few mobis, via email, to my pdocs while the same books were already on the regular bookshelf. Surprise - the pdoc covers appeared normally under Documents and on the carousel.

It seems to only work one way. You must sideload the book first and then add it as a pdoc second for the cover to show up on the carousel. If you try to sideload the book of a pdoc you still have a white cover.

[sirmaru]

Why not just buy Amazon eBooks? Also, how come so many eBooks? I read 2 eBooks at one time and it takes me a couple of months to finish one.

I leave almost all my eBooks in the Cloud at Amazon and just store a few current ones on the Fire.

Amazon's prices for eBooks beat almost every other source. Why even bother with other sources?

The Department of Justice is suing 5 publishers and Apple for inflating eBook prices. Amazon is the only outlet which DEFLATES eBook prices. Amazon even posts a note on the eBook page if the publisher inflated the price.

Finally, with Amazon Prime one can borrow lots of eBooks at NO cost.

[Anabran]

"Why not just buy Amazon eBooks? Also, how come so many eBooks? I read 2 eBooks at one time and it takes me a couple of months to finish one.

I leave almost all my eBooks in the Cloud at Amazon and just store a few current ones on the Fire.

Amazon's prices for eBooks beat almost every other source. Why even bother with other sources?"

Well to be fair some people are more prolific readers than others
I have read Eight novels since Dec when My KF arrived and many of us also read alot of other lengthy personal docs.

I personally am not having any of the problems described in this thread
as I use a third Party Epub reader and have not even seen the ugly Stock book shelf launcher in months
but I hope the other people get their problems sorted about soon.

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by Anabran

I have read Eight novels since Dec when My KF arrived and many of us also read alot of other lengthy personal docs.

Have you compared prices of those 8 ePub novels with Amazon's prices? I used to always compare prices between Amazon, Sony and Barnes&Noble. Amazon always came in lowest and I stopped comparing prices now for a year.

Those pDocs seem like eBooks as well the way folks are referring to them. I have a hunch they overpaid a lot compared to the same eBooks on Amazon.

If price is really a factor, one can just borrow without any additional cost from the Amazon Lending Library if one has Amazon Prime which also offers free 2 day shipping on all other Amazon products for one year.

I certainly have no idea why folks would pay higher prices from non-Amazon sources and then convert them with Calibre to an Amazon format or use other eReader Apps to read them on the Fire.

[Jessica Lares]

You guys could also take advantage of things like Book Lending: http://booklending.com/

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

You guys could also take advantage of things like Book Lending: http://booklending.com/

Amazon users can lend PURCHASED eBooks to each other as well. The borrower can keep the eBook for 3 weeks.

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by Blossom

It seems to only work one way. You must sideload the book first and then add it as a pdoc second for the cover to show up on the carousel. If you try to sideload the book of a pdoc you still have a white cover.

Well, yes, that is why I emphasized my statement in bold, "books that are already on the bookshelf...." Obviously, an existing thumbnail (book) is recognized by the addition of the pdoc version.

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Have you compared prices of those 8 ePub novels with Amazon's prices? I used to always compare prices between Amazon, Sony and Barnes&Noble. Amazon always came in lowest and I stopped comparing prices now for a year.

Those pDocs seem like eBooks as well the way folks are referring to them. I have a hunch they overpaid a lot compared to the same eBooks on Amazon.

If price is really a factor, one can just borrow without any additional cost from the Amazon Lending Library if one has Amazon Prime which also offers free 2 day shipping on all other Amazon products for one year.

I certainly have no idea why folks would pay higher prices from non-Amazon sources and then convert them with Calibre to an Amazon format or use other eReader Apps to read them on the Fire.

Some prefer indie publishers, sites with a specific genre, etc., where they sell books in multiple formats with NO DRM and at the same price, possibly less. Many have been loyal customers for years and continue to support their favorite publishers/retailer(s).

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Those pDocs seem like eBooks as well the way folks are referring to them. I have a hunch they overpaid a lot compared to the same eBooks on Amazon.

Pdoc = personal document - it is not puchased and it is not some special format. These are your own personal documents added for viewing. There are various formats that one can upload. The only difference with a book is the method of delivery - sending to the Fire's email address results in the book appearing as a personal document under the Documents tab or side-load to appear on the bookshelf under the Books tab.

Detailed information here (scroll two-thirds down the page):

Sending Personal Documents to the Kindle Fire

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Why not just buy Amazon eBooks? Also, how come so many eBooks? I read 2 eBooks at one time and it takes me a couple of months to finish one.

I leave almost all my eBooks in the Cloud at Amazon and just store a few current ones on the Fire.

Amazon's prices for eBooks beat almost every other source. Why even bother with other sources?

I do buy some books from Amazon but even they need work in Calibre. My books must have indentations, a blank line after each paragraph, marked chapter headers and a working TOC and Kindle navigation. Font tags and embedded fonts have to be removed as well to work on the Kindle correctly. It drives me nuts when publisher add font size tags to a Kindle book.

I've read 43 books so far this year with a goal of a 100 books for the year but I think I will probably pass it. Last year I read 61 books but I was still playing sims now I read full time. I also read up to three books at a time.

I will always shop where the books are the cheapest. I am on a tight budget I can afford not to be frugal so Fictionwise gets most of my business with their wonderful coupons specially for Harlequin. Kobo use to get more of my time but they started charging me state and county tax on all purchases. Still if they are cheaper than the other places with coupon I will still buy from them. Books on Board is usually cheaper than Amazon so I shop there when I have a purchase over $5 and I get reward dollars back. Then their is Smashwords and well... you get the idea.

I need pdocs to work correctly. I own 3 Kindles and they need to stay in sync with each other so I can pick up where I left off and get my bookmarks and notes.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by Skydog

Well, yes, that is why I emphasized my statement in bold, "books that are already on the bookshelf...." Obviously, an existing thumbnail (book) is recognized by the addition of the pdoc version.

It's a little more work but it may keep from having to clear data so much. Last night I had to do it 3 times as my covers went white again during a normal sync!