CF vs MMC

jasem200 · 03-08-2008, 12:08 AM

Hi

can you advice me, which memory is better for use with iliad consedering power consumption and access speed. CF or MMC,

sure usb is not the best was.

another Q, if i want to install addons to my iliad, shall be installed in one of the memorries, or it can be installed on main memory. and how.

because i tried to install the GPE from USB memory, and it was installed in the same USB memory in directoy called programs.

Thank you

and

wallcraft · 03-08-2008, 12:09 PM

I don't know the pros and cons of CF vs MMC, except that CF is larger and only CF allows you to unbrick the iLiad, see How to unbrick (reflash, restore, etc) your iLiad.

Most 3rd party programs get installed on the same filesystem where its installer program was placed (some don't even need an installer, and so copying it to the filesystem "installs" it there). It is usual for them to end up in Programs and it is easiest to put new 3rd party packages there. Some apps can be installed in "internal" memory, but I always use my CF card because the easiest recovery procedure of all is to reboot after removing the CF card. If this fixes a problem, then you can use an external CF reader/writer (inexpensive and well worth having in reserve) to remove the offending files. I have never needed this for 3rd party packages by the way (they are usually tested enough to be safe), but I did need this when I installed some fonts - if they had been in internal memory I would have had to reflash to recover.

-Thomas- · 03-08-2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasem200

can you advice me, which memory is better for use with iliad consedering power consumption and access speed. CF or MMC,

sure usb is not the best was.

I had to make the same decision when I got my iLiad some weeks ago, and I decided to buy a Compact Flash card.

CF cards are much faster but consume a little bit more power. The power drain isn't tremendous IMO. There is a known bug with WiFi and CF: when you're using both at the same time the CF access is dramatically slow, but that constellation doesn't happen very often for me. Usually I don't notice any slowdown compared to the internal memory.

jasem200 · 03-08-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

I don't know the pros and cons of CF vs MMC, except that CF is larger and only CF allows you to unbrick the iLiad, see How to unbrick (reflash, restore, etc) your iLiad.
but I did need this when I installed some fonts - if they had been in internal memory I would have had to reflash to recover.

thank you guys for your help, i think i will go with the CF, but i have a Q why do i need fonts. and how can i install them.

thank you

wallcraft · 03-09-2008, 08:46 AM

It isn't entirely safe to install your own fonts on the iLiad, and there is not much need to do so for "Latin" languages.

The MobiPocket Reader can only use one of two existing fonts, see Mobipocket Font Switcher. This is one of the areas where the iLiad is less capable than the Cybook, which allows user downloaded fonts in its Reader.

FBReader, like MobiPocket Reader, typically uses a single font for everything, but it can be any of the fonts installed on the device and it is possible to add new fonts for FBReader. I think PDF's can include embedded fonts, and there are several "type 1" fonts for PDFs already installed.

barney111 · 11-06-2008, 04:30 AM

Could I use both memory slots? say the 1gb mmc for programmes and the cf for my book collection your views would be appreciated

best

barney111

M@rcel · 11-06-2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barney111

Could I use both memory slots? say the 1gb mmc for programmes and the cf for my book collection your views would be appreciated

best

barney111

That's exactly how I have it structured. No problem, I'm happy with my choice

zerospinboson · 11-06-2008, 08:22 AM

how much additional power does the mmc draw? i've got a Transcend 8gb cf card (that says it uses low power) which hardly decreases the uptime, but are mmcs generally worse or better?

barney111 · 11-07-2008, 10:28 PM

Marcel which mmc card are you using I am finding it difficult to find one!!

Best
barney111

M@rcel · 11-08-2008, 11:13 AM

Integral MMC plus 1GB
I bought it in the nearest retail store, here in Holland. They only had one in stock in an already opened package, so I got it for almost nothing

ericshliao · 11-08-2008, 11:24 AM

Many SD cards (below 1GB ) are compatible with MMC. They are much cheaper and easier to be found in shop.

wallcraft · 11-08-2008, 11:26 AM

SD cards up to 1GB can be used in the MMC slot, see Iliad Memorycards list.

ericshliao · 11-08-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallcraft

SD cards up to 1GB can be used in the MMC slot, see Iliad Memorycards list.

I said below 1gb also means that 1gb included.

barney111 · 11-08-2008, 04:48 PM

Thanks all I have bought a 4gb Sandisk Ultra 2 cf card and a basic 1gb SD card
both work great.
However I have put my books on the CF card and through the device manager have set the book button to open at the CF card where all the books are situated.It opens at the book page but know books are visible whats wrong please?

Best

barney111

CleverClothe · 11-09-2008, 10:42 PM

The books button goes to the "books" folder on your card. If you did not put your books in that folder, you won't see them is you use the button.

03-08-2008, 12:08 AM	#1
jasem200 Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: iLiad	CF vs MMC Hi can you advice me, which memory is better for use with iliad consedering power consumption and access speed. CF or MMC, sure usb is not the best was. another Q, if i want to install addons to my iliad, shall be installed in one of the memorries, or it can be installed on main memory. and how. because i tried to install the GPE from USB memory, and it was installed in the same USB memory in directoy called programs. Thank you and

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wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	I don't know the pros and cons of CF vs MMC, except that CF is larger and only CF allows you to unbrick the iLiad, see How to unbrick (reflash, restore, etc) your iLiad. Most 3rd party programs get installed on the same filesystem where its installer program was placed (some don't even need an installer, and so copying it to the filesystem "installs" it there). It is usual for them to end up in Programs and it is easiest to put new 3rd party packages there. Some apps can be installed in "internal" memory, but I always use my CF card because the easiest recovery procedure of all is to reboot after removing the CF card. If this fixes a problem, then you can use an external CF reader/writer (inexpensive and well worth having in reserve) to remove the offending files. I have never needed this for 3rd party packages by the way (they are usually tested enough to be safe), but I did need this when I installed some fonts - if they had been in internal memory I would have had to reflash to recover.

03-09-2008, 08:46 AM	#5
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	It isn't entirely safe to install your own fonts on the iLiad, and there is not much need to do so for "Latin" languages. The MobiPocket Reader can only use one of two existing fonts, see Mobipocket Font Switcher. This is one of the areas where the iLiad is less capable than the Cybook, which allows user downloaded fonts in its Reader. FBReader, like MobiPocket Reader, typically uses a single font for everything, but it can be any of the fonts installed on the device and it is possible to add new fonts for FBReader. I think PDF's can include embedded fonts, and there are several "type 1" fonts for PDFs already installed.

11-06-2008, 04:30 AM	#6
barney111 Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Cybook gen3 iRex iLiad	Could I use both memory slots? say the 1gb mmc for programmes and the cf for my book collection your views would be appreciated best barney111

11-06-2008, 08:22 AM	#8
zerospinboson "Assume a can opener..." Posts: 755 Karma: 1942109 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Local Cluster Device: iLiad v2, DR1000	how much additional power does the mmc draw? i've got a Transcend 8gb cf card (that says it uses low power) which hardly decreases the uptime, but are mmcs generally worse or better?

11-07-2008, 10:28 PM	#9
barney111 Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Cybook gen3 iRex iLiad	Marcel which mmc card are you using I am finding it difficult to find one!! Best barney111

11-08-2008, 11:13 AM	#10
M@rcel Connoisseur Posts: 50 Karma: 32 Join Date: Aug 2008 Device: Irex iLiad	Integral MMC plus 1GB I bought it in the nearest retail store, here in Holland. They only had one in stock in an already opened package, so I got it for almost nothing

11-08-2008, 11:24 AM	#11
ericshliao Guru Posts: 976 Karma: 687 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Dell X51v; iLiad v2	Many SD cards (below 1GB ) are compatible with MMC. They are much cheaper and easier to be found in shop.

11-08-2008, 11:26 AM	#12
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	SD cards up to 1GB can be used in the MMC slot, see Iliad Memorycards list.

11-08-2008, 04:48 PM	#14
barney111 Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Cybook gen3 iRex iLiad	Thanks all I have bought a 4gb Sandisk Ultra 2 cf card and a basic 1gb SD card both work great. However I have put my books on the CF card and through the device manager have set the book button to open at the CF card where all the books are situated.It opens at the book page but know books are visible whats wrong please? Best barney111

11-09-2008, 10:42 PM	#15
CleverClothe Guru Posts: 618 Karma: 493394 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Device: iRex iLiad, Onyx Boox 60	The books button goes to the "books" folder on your card. If you did not put your books in that folder, you won't see them is you use the button.

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