Which one are you ordering: PW2 wifi or PW2 3G - Page 2

ucfgrad93 · 10-24-2013, 10:43 PM

I will only get the wifi version. I have a 3g Kindle Keyboard and I think I've only used the 3g once or twice in the 2.5 years I've had it.

Zimmy · 10-25-2013, 10:19 AM

Yeah, Amazon killed the 3G option by its limitations.
Because of a few hackers, they threw the baby out with the bath water.

If they changed it to unlimited Amazon/Wikipedia and 50megs (or some nominal value) browsing a month, I would jump on it.

BigFoot48 · 10-25-2013, 10:29 AM

I bought the 3G version of the Kindle3 because we were RVing then and I thought it might be useful when in the boondocks but we ended up never using the 3G. So I chose the ad and WiFi version of the PW when I ordered it two days ago (shipped today but it must be from China as delivery is estimated at Nov 9!).

Yolina · 10-25-2013, 11:00 AM

All my Kindles have been WiFi only. I actually don't even use the WiFi on my Kindle once the initial registration is done, so no point going for the 3G version.

jersysman · 10-25-2013, 11:25 AM

WiFi for me all the way. I've never used 3G on my tablets, so I didn't see any need to have it on an ereader.

Tarana · 11-05-2013, 02:24 PM

I hope that they maintain the 3g option. Many people in rural areas who actually read get the 3g option because wifi service is either bad or non-existant. My sister just bought the 3g PPW2 for exactly that reason. She's registered it to my account so that she can not only get all the ebooks I have bought there, but also because I can email books that I've bought elsewhere directly to her unit.

Pushka · 11-05-2013, 09:57 PM

3G for me. The very first time I used a wifi model (after having had 3G ones before) I was travelling and went to download a book. Of course, no wifi available for free.

eschwartz · 11-05-2013, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmy

Yeah, Amazon killed the 3G option by its limitations.
Because of a few hackers, they threw the baby out with the bath water.

If they changed it to unlimited Amazon/Wikipedia and 50megs (or some nominal value) browsing a month, I would jump on it.

What would the point for Amazon be? Their goal was to make you be able to download your books everywhere -- why would they also pay for your web browsing?

Wikipedia/bing translate/social sharing of passages I also understand, since IT ENHANCES THE READING EXPERIENCE.

Will Amazon make more money by giving people 50 megs free 3g browsing? No, people would buy Kindles and Kindle books anyway. People will buy Kindles b/c they like the 3g access to books, and might not otherwise buy an kindle they feel is useless for their needs, but nobody decides not to buy a kindle because they can't BROWSE for free.

shanghaichica · 11-07-2013, 01:03 PM

Meh I've decided to get the paperwhite 2 afterall. I think I'll keep my original paperwhite though just in case I dint like the 2 and it would be nice to have a backup kindle, although I have 3 other ereaders that are supposed to be backups.

I'll be getting the wifi.

Zimmy · 11-11-2013, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

What would the point for Amazon be? Their goal was to make you be able to download your books everywhere -- why would they also pay for your web browsing?

Wikipedia/bing translate/social sharing of passages I also understand, since IT ENHANCES THE READING EXPERIENCE.

Will Amazon make more money by giving people 50 megs free 3g browsing? No, people would buy Kindles and Kindle books anyway. People will buy Kindles b/c they like the 3g access to books, and might not otherwise buy an kindle they feel is useless for their needs, but nobody decides not to buy a kindle because they can't BROWSE for free.

If their goal was to have people buy their books via 3G, why charge extra at all?

You make it sound like I want them to give everyone free 3G.
Amazon was the one that offered it.
All I am saying, instead of crippling the feature, change it to give the upcharge more value.
Ask yourself, why did they stop with 3G everything?
I would guess the #1 reason was the hacking abuse.

By taking everything away but buying content from them, the 3G option is only seems to be for umm... what did P.T. Barnum say?

eschwartz · 11-11-2013, 04:53 PM

It was always to provide your books everywhere even if you didn't have a wifi connection.

Amazon offers the data network for free, and just charges you the cost of the 3G hardware.

Amazon's goal wasn't to get everyone to buy the Kindle Paperwhite "because I get free browsing funded by Amazon". They don't make money selling Kindles, they make money selling books. They offer you the option to GET those books anywhere, without relying on a wifi network. What monetary benefit does Amazon get by funding peoples' internet habits? They are not a charity. They are in the business of selling books -- that means making those books accessible anywhere is good marketing.

Serapeum · 11-11-2013, 04:54 PM

3G

I do enough travelling that I can't rely on having access to free WiFi.

Pushka · 11-11-2013, 11:05 PM

I received my 3G but the signal is as dead as a dodo. I have full connection bars on my original Paperwhite. Amazon have offered to send a replacement. But I do wonder if it is this unit, or that Amazon 3G does not work outside the USA - as I am currently travelling. Given that the original PPW can connect fine, maybe despite saying it can be used internationally on 3G, it can't!?

eschwartz · 11-11-2013, 11:57 PM

As long as it is inside the supported areas -- there is a map on Amazon -- you should be able to use 3G just fine, even outside the US. If another 3G Kindle is getting reception in the same place, then this should be totally the fault of a faulty Kindle.

ProfCrash · 11-12-2013, 09:08 AM

Amazon did stop the free 3G because some folks figured out how to hack the Kindle Keyboard and use the 3G as a hotspot. The bills were massive and the instructions were available on the web. I don't know how hard it would have been to block that particular hack but I have a feeling that free 3G for life on a device that costs less then most peoples phones would have led to a fair amount of hacking.

I hope they keep the 3G option for folks who struggle with computers, don't have a computer, or don't have WiFi. I think it is a valuable option and I think that Amazon knows that. The WiFi is by far the more popular model, but the 3G is well received and seems to sell pretty well.

My PW2 is my first WiFi only device. I found that I really didn't need the 3G based on how I used the device so why pay the money? We might be giving my DX to my Grandma and the 3G will be useful there. She struggles to use her computer and does not have WiFi in the house.

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11-07-2013, 01:03 PM	#24
shanghaichica Guru Posts: 989 Karma: 5782970 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Scribe,Kindle Oasis 3, iPad Pro 11, iPhone 13 Pro Max,iPad mini 6, PW5	Meh I've decided to get the paperwhite 2 afterall. I think I'll keep my original paperwhite though just in case I dint like the 2 and it would be nice to have a backup kindle, although I have 3 other ereaders that are supposed to be backups. I'll be getting the wifi. Last edited by shanghaichica; 11-07-2013 at 01:24 PM.

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10-24-2013, 10:43 PM	#16
ucfgrad93 Wizard Posts: 2,360 Karma: 9026681 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen	I will only get the wifi version. I have a 3g Kindle Keyboard and I think I've only used the 3g once or twice in the 2.5 years I've had it.

10-25-2013, 10:19 AM	#17
Zimmy Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 504022 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	Yeah, Amazon killed the 3G option by its limitations. Because of a few hackers, they threw the baby out with the bath water. If they changed it to unlimited Amazon/Wikipedia and 50megs (or some nominal value) browsing a month, I would jump on it.

10-25-2013, 10:29 AM	#18
BigFoot48 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle KB, Paperwhite 2, Fire 7"	I bought the 3G version of the Kindle3 because we were RVing then and I thought it might be useful when in the boondocks but we ended up never using the 3G. So I chose the ad and WiFi version of the PW when I ordered it two days ago (shipped today but it must be from China as delivery is estimated at Nov 9!).

10-25-2013, 11:00 AM	#19
Yolina Wizard Posts: 1,179 Karma: 11573197 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: London, UK Device: Voyage	All my Kindles have been WiFi only. I actually don't even use the WiFi on my Kindle once the initial registration is done, so no point going for the 3G version.

10-25-2013, 11:25 AM	#20
jersysman Wizard Posts: 1,747 Karma: 3761220 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Device: T1 Red, Kindle Fire, Kindle PW, PW2, Nook HD+, Kobo Mini, Aura HD	WiFi for me all the way. I've never used 3G on my tablets, so I didn't see any need to have it on an ereader.

11-05-2013, 02:24 PM	#21
Tarana Wizard Posts: 3,978 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos	I hope that they maintain the 3g option. Many people in rural areas who actually read get the 3g option because wifi service is either bad or non-existant. My sister just bought the 3g PPW2 for exactly that reason. She's registered it to my account so that she can not only get all the ebooks I have bought there, but also because I can email books that I've bought elsewhere directly to her unit.

11-05-2013, 09:57 PM	#22
Pushka Wizard Posts: 1,119 Karma: 1019140 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Device: kindle, Ipad, Iphone, Nexus and PPW	3G for me. The very first time I used a wifi model (after having had 3G ones before) I was travelling and went to download a book. Of course, no wifi available for free.

11-11-2013, 04:53 PM	#26
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It was always to provide your books everywhere even if you didn't have a wifi connection. Amazon offers the data network for free, and just charges you the cost of the 3G hardware. Amazon's goal wasn't to get everyone to buy the Kindle Paperwhite "because I get free browsing funded by Amazon". They don't make money selling Kindles, they make money selling books. They offer you the option to GET those books anywhere, without relying on a wifi network. What monetary benefit does Amazon get by funding peoples' internet habits? They are not a charity. They are in the business of selling books -- that means making those books accessible anywhere is good marketing.

11-11-2013, 04:54 PM	#27
Serapeum Member Posts: 22 Karma: 473300 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Moon Reader+	3G I do enough travelling that I can't rely on having access to free WiFi.

11-11-2013, 11:05 PM	#28
Pushka Wizard Posts: 1,119 Karma: 1019140 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Device: kindle, Ipad, Iphone, Nexus and PPW	I received my 3G but the signal is as dead as a dodo. I have full connection bars on my original Paperwhite. Amazon have offered to send a replacement. But I do wonder if it is this unit, or that Amazon 3G does not work outside the USA - as I am currently travelling. Given that the original PPW can connect fine, maybe despite saying it can be used internationally on 3G, it can't!?

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11-11-2013, 11:57 PM	#29
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	As long as it is inside the supported areas -- there is a map on Amazon -- you should be able to use 3G just fine, even outside the US. If another 3G Kindle is getting reception in the same place, then this should be totally the fault of a faulty Kindle.

11-12-2013, 09:08 AM	#30
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Amazon did stop the free 3G because some folks figured out how to hack the Kindle Keyboard and use the 3G as a hotspot. The bills were massive and the instructions were available on the web. I don't know how hard it would have been to block that particular hack but I have a feeling that free 3G for life on a device that costs less then most peoples phones would have led to a fair amount of hacking. I hope they keep the 3G option for folks who struggle with computers, don't have a computer, or don't have WiFi. I think it is a valuable option and I think that Amazon knows that. The WiFi is by far the more popular model, but the 3G is well received and seems to sell pretty well. My PW2 is my first WiFi only device. I found that I really didn't need the 3G based on how I used the device so why pay the money? We might be giving my DX to my Grandma and the 3G will be useful there. She struggles to use her computer and does not have WiFi in the house.