Greek on Sony PRS 505 reader

tasoskaf · 05-05-2008, 10:44 AM

Hi i just ordered my sony PRS 505 reader and i would like to know if it supports the greek language.thank you in advance!

HarryT · 05-05-2008, 10:46 AM

Only by embedding fonts in a PDF or LRF file, which quite drastically slows down page turns.

tasoskaf · 05-05-2008, 10:56 AM

And how exactly is this done??
when you say drastically slows down page turns how much time is this??Do i have to wait long??(thanks for your help!)

HarryT · 05-05-2008, 11:23 AM

Any of the LRF or PDF creation tools allow you to embed fonts in a document.

It slows down page turns from about half a second to about 2 or 3 seconds.

tasoskaf · 05-05-2008, 12:08 PM

1-2 secs is acceptable.thanks

porkupan · 05-05-2008, 12:15 PM

Actually, the three original fonts, the ones that came with the Reader, do include Greek Unicode character set (no special characters though). The fonts from the Russified firmwares don't.

HarryT · 05-05-2008, 12:20 PM

But do they include things like the Greek punctuation? Or does modern Greek no longer use the punctuation of Attic Greek? Forgive my ignorance - I read Attic Greek but not modern Greek, and I'm not at all sure what's changed, other than the fact that (I believe) that modern Greek doesn't use accents (?).

porkupan · 05-05-2008, 12:34 PM

I think you are correct - those default fonts probably don't include the accents (you can see that accented Greek characters are grayed out). I don't know anything about the special Greek punctuation, so I cannot even tell (my knowledge of Greek expends to mere familiarity with Greek alphabet from the math classes in a Soviet school

). If the accents and/or special punctuation are a must for a modern Greek reader, one should read PDF, or LRF with embedded fonts (or "picture" LRFs converted from other formats by PDFLRF - then you will not have any paging delays, and you can read in any written language known or unknown to man, but the resulting LRF files will be larger by far).

tasoskaf · 05-05-2008, 02:13 PM

We don`t use punctuation in modern Greek but we do use accents when writing in lowercase.so it might be a problem...?

i will have to use the embedded fonts to see it right.
ps. where can i find the fonts?

porkupan · 05-05-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tasoskaf

ps. where can i find the fonts?

You can embed standard windows fonts (Times, Arial, etc.), I believe.

astra · 05-06-2008, 04:27 AM

After 300-400 pages it is going to be 4-5 seconds and more for page turns.
I would avoid embeded fonts at all costs.

soilwork · 05-06-2008, 04:52 AM

I am not familiar with Greek fonts, but if you find a unicode fonts with all relevant Greek letters, you can load the font using the following method.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20644
If this method works, you can read unicode txt/rtf/lrf without slow down in page turns.

akiburis · 05-06-2008, 08:34 AM

I've made dozens of PDF (and one or two LRF) files with embedded fonts for the Sony Reader. The typical page turn time is about 1 second--an appreciable increase over the approximately half-second page turn time of an LRF file without embedded fonts, but one that I find to be negligible in practice. And the page turn time does not increase noticeably with the number of page turns, in my experience.

tasoskaf · 05-13-2008, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soilwork

I am not familiar with Greek fonts, but if you find a unicode fonts with all relevant Greek letters, you can load the font using the following method.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20644
If this method works, you can read unicode txt/rtf/lrf without slow down in page turns.

Thanks I tried it and it works fine!!!!!!

soilwork · 05-13-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tasoskaf

Thanks I tried it and it works fine!!!!!!

Glad to hear that. Hope you enjoy your PRS-505 like many other users here

05-05-2008, 10:44 AM	#1
tasoskaf Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2008 Device: sony PRS 505	Greek on Sony PRS 505 reader Hi i just ordered my sony PRS 505 reader and i would like to know if it supports the greek language.thank you in advance!

05-05-2008, 12:34 PM	#8
porkupan Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1057213 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Eastern U.S. Device: Sony Reader	I think you are correct - those default fonts probably don't include the accents (you can see that accented Greek characters are grayed out). I don't know anything about the special Greek punctuation, so I cannot even tell (my knowledge of Greek expends to mere familiarity with Greek alphabet from the math classes in a Soviet school ). If the accents and/or special punctuation are a must for a modern Greek reader, one should read PDF, or LRF with embedded fonts (or "picture" LRFs converted from other formats by PDFLRF - then you will not have any paging delays, and you can read in any written language known or unknown to man, but the resulting LRF files will be larger by far). Last edited by porkupan; 05-05-2008 at 12:44 PM. Reason: PDFLRF needs a mention

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05-05-2008, 10:46 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Only by embedding fonts in a PDF or LRF file, which quite drastically slows down page turns.

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tasoskaf Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2008 Device: sony PRS 505	And how exactly is this done?? when you say drastically slows down page turns how much time is this??Do i have to wait long??(thanks for your help!)

05-05-2008, 11:23 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Any of the LRF or PDF creation tools allow you to embed fonts in a document. It slows down page turns from about half a second to about 2 or 3 seconds.

05-05-2008, 12:08 PM	#5
tasoskaf Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2008 Device: sony PRS 505	1-2 secs is acceptable.thanks

05-05-2008, 12:15 PM	#6
porkupan Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1057213 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Eastern U.S. Device: Sony Reader	Actually, the three original fonts, the ones that came with the Reader, do include Greek Unicode character set (no special characters though). The fonts from the Russified firmwares don't.

05-05-2008, 12:20 PM	#7
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	But do they include things like the Greek punctuation? Or does modern Greek no longer use the punctuation of Attic Greek? Forgive my ignorance - I read Attic Greek but not modern Greek, and I'm not at all sure what's changed, other than the fact that (I believe) that modern Greek doesn't use accents (?).

05-05-2008, 02:13 PM	#9
tasoskaf Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2008 Device: sony PRS 505	We don`t use punctuation in modern Greek but we do use accents when writing in lowercase.so it might be a problem...? i will have to use the embedded fonts to see it right. ps. where can i find the fonts?

05-06-2008, 04:27 AM	#11
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	After 300-400 pages it is going to be 4-5 seconds and more for page turns. I would avoid embeded fonts at all costs.

05-06-2008, 04:52 AM	#12
soilwork useR! Posts: 299 Karma: 651 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NY Device: Onyx Boox Max 2, Kobo Libra H2O, iRiver Story HD	I am not familiar with Greek fonts, but if you find a unicode fonts with all relevant Greek letters, you can load the font using the following method. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20644 If this method works, you can read unicode txt/rtf/lrf without slow down in page turns.

05-06-2008, 08:34 AM	#13
akiburis Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 614 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Device: Sony PRS-505, iLiad Book Edition	I've made dozens of PDF (and one or two LRF) files with embedded fonts for the Sony Reader. The typical page turn time is about 1 second--an appreciable increase over the approximately half-second page turn time of an LRF file without embedded fonts, but one that I find to be negligible in practice. And the page turn time does not increase noticeably with the number of page turns, in my experience.

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