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And: Why are iPod touch and iPhone successful? iTunes certainly has a major impact on that. Being able to purchase apps, movies, TV shows and now even eBooks through a single platform certainly is a stroke of genius. |
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Actually Android syncs quite well with Itunes. The streak is selling quite well, as you can tell from the lively accessories after market. Last edited by HansTWN; 09-21-2010 at 09:15 PM. |
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Yes. But that's of no use for Dell and other manufacturers.
Apple is designing the hardware AND delivering the platform. It's the combination -all from a single source- that separates them from the others. Google will (already does) have their revenue. But Dell only has a single source of revenue stream... |
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I want a quality 7" Android tablet (16GB min), but there's no way I'm going to pay more than $400 for it. If push comes to shove, I'll get a new netbook for $250. |
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Maybe it's time for Google to jump back in and contract with HTC to make tablets (4", 7", 10") for them. Then Google can open up stores to sell them in. |
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Apple originally has been a manufacturer - and that's still an integral part of their business. They want to sell (and build) iPads and iPhones. And iTunes is a nice vehicle to do so. Google originally has been a software company. I don't think, there's real enthusiasm (yet) in selling hardware (with way lower margins)... In my opinion, there's a single advantage for Google: Their Android OS can run on various OEMs. If one doesn't like manufacturer A, he still can opt for B or C. With Apple...you either love or hate them... If Google plays that card right and finds the right 2 or 3 partners, they'll be extremely tough competition for Apple. I don't see a single manufacturer being able to compete with Apple for now. Nokia for example is losing ground, they've simply rested too long on their former successes. My personal guess: Without strategic partnerships, Nokia will be history in 5 years. This won't happen to Google of course... Last edited by mgmueller; 09-22-2010 at 12:49 AM. |
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And their overhead costs (sales, administration, marketing, ...) will be in the range of 15% to 20%. And taxes. And... Hardware manufacturers usually need Gross Margins in the range of 40% to 50%, to end up with about 5% EBIT. Last edited by mgmueller; 09-22-2010 at 12:49 AM. |
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I have no idea of Dell's over all strategy of course.
But I guess, their idea is not (in short terms) competing with Apple's figures. For them it probably is just a nice add-on to their stagnating core business. Probably Apple started the same with the first iPod. Back then, probably no one would have imagined that Apple from "close to chapter 11" would rise to such figures as today... Last edited by mgmueller; 09-22-2010 at 12:50 AM. |
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Take the 16GB WiFi iPad, Apple's cost to make is $230. They sell it for $500. The 3G versions (with no mandated contracts) cost an additional $28 to make ($258) and sell for an additional $130 ($630). This is what Android makers are up against. If they can't compete price wise in this arena, then they need to quit now. I guarantee I won't be buying Android if they can't get their act together. The only thing a tablet has going for it over a netbook is portability (lighter weight, smaller size). Otherwise, a netbook has better specs and will do more. If my choice is a crippled iPad (no expansion ports, no expandable memory, sealed battery) or an overpriced Android; then I'll continue using a netbook. For $250, it's a no brainer. |
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Then why do they bother? If they can't sell at Apple's prices or below, then they'll fail. Price is almost everything for most people when it comes to consumer goods.
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That's exactly my point, it's not all about the hardware/hardware price. It's about features, reliability etc. This is not like selling fruit and veggies.
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