How to remove my Kindle form Calibre?

WS64 · 12-06-2010, 08:25 AM

Hello, I just want to use Calibre to convert from mobi to epub or the other way, I don't want it to work as a library.
I want to manually add and remove my books...

But whenever I plug my Kindle to my Computer in Calibre starts searching files on it. Is there a way to stop that?

Sweetpea · 12-06-2010, 09:09 AM

Would disabling the plugin work?

(preferences - device interface plugins - Kindle 2/3 Device Interface and then enable/disable plugin button)

Manichean · 12-06-2010, 09:10 AM

Note that you can do the conversion using the commandline utilities as well- there's no need to add the books to the library.

WS64 · 12-06-2010, 10:00 AM

Sweetpea, wouldn't I lose my settings that way too?

Manichean, that sounds interesting, can you point me to a place where I can read more about this?

Manichean · 12-06-2010, 10:13 AM

Try the manual for help on the CLI tools.
As for the "losing your settings" thing, you either want to use your Kindle with Calibre, in which case disabling the plugin would be unwise because Calibre wouldn't recognize the device any more, or you don't want to use it, in which case there aren't any relevant settings to be lost. Either way, I believe the settings you may or may not need are preserved when the plugin is disabled.

WS64 · 12-06-2010, 04:19 PM

Manichean, thanks, the command line works fine.
This is actually the way I want it, no need to start calibra at all and add files to a library, just wrote a batch file with all my settings and now can right click on an epub to convert it directly to mobi.

There is just one problem...
The new mobi file is significant bigger than the mobi created by Calibre with my own default settings, and I can't find why. I have added to my batch file all the parameters the same way as they are in Calibre (not all of them are available in the options for the command line, and I think there are some that are just available in the command line and not in Calibre itself). First I thought there is something wrong with the compression, so I even tried to convert using --dont-compress just to see if that was on by default. It was not, the file got even bigger...
So what can cause the file to get bigger with the command line options compared to what Calibre does?
My epub file was 173K, Command line made it a 300K Mobi, and Calibre makes it 227K mobi

Manichean · 12-06-2010, 06:52 PM

So, is a difference of 3K really relevant?
If you really have to know, ask Kovid how the GUI calls the CLI tools.

kovidgoyal · 12-06-2010, 07:19 PM

the GUI doesn't call the CLI tools, they're both interfaces that call the underlying modules. And the system is complex enough that it's not easy to give you an answer. Use the -vv command line argument to produce a list of all options used in the conversion and compare it with the conversion log from teh GUI

WS64 · 12-07-2010, 02:20 AM

Thanks Kovid, I'll try that!

Manichean, 73K you mean (227 vs 300K)... Well, my Kindle is full (just a few hundred MB free), so if every file gets 1/4 or 1/3 bigger it will be a problem

Manichean · 12-07-2010, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS64

Manichean, 73K you mean (227 vs 300K)...

Right. I should read, not just skim over.

WS64 · 12-07-2010, 03:08 PM

Kovid, where do I find any GUI logs?

kovidgoyal · 12-07-2010, 03:09 PM

click the rotating spinner in the bottom right corner.

WS64 · 12-07-2010, 04:03 PM

Kovin, thanks again.
I compared both, full results here

The few differences are
- "cover" and "read_metadata_from_opf", but I guess this is just because Calibre extract the files first from my epub.
- 0 instead 0.0 at CMD
- level1_toc/level2_toc: I was not able to tell my program to use //h:h3 or //h:h4, when I try this ebook-convert.exe creates a directory h3 and puts all the stuff there instead of creating a mobi file.

None of those seems to be important to the filesize...
There must be another difference.

kovidgoyal · 12-07-2010, 04:48 PM

the cover is the difference. specify a cover on the command line using --cover

WS64 · 12-07-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

the cover is the difference. specify a cover on the command line using --cover

Yep, that does the trick.

But why?
It is the same jpg, one time taken from inside the epub, one time manually extracted.

Is there a way to get the same result without having to manually extract the cover first?

12-06-2010, 08:25 AM	#1
WS64 ♫ Posts: 660 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	How to remove my Kindle form Calibre? Hello, I just want to use Calibre to convert from mobi to epub or the other way, I don't want it to work as a library. I want to manually add and remove my books... But whenever I plug my Kindle to my Computer in Calibre starts searching files on it. Is there a way to stop that?

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12-06-2010, 09:09 AM	#2
Sweetpea Grand Sorcerer Posts: 9,707 Karma: 32763414 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Krewerd Device: Pocketbook Inkpad 4 Color; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6	Would disabling the plugin work? (preferences - device interface plugins - Kindle 2/3 Device Interface and then enable/disable plugin button)

12-06-2010, 09:10 AM	#3
Manichean Wizard Posts: 3,130 Karma: 91256 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Device: Cybook Gen3	Note that you can do the conversion using the commandline utilities as well- there's no need to add the books to the library.

12-06-2010, 10:00 AM	#4
WS64 ♫ Posts: 660 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	Sweetpea, wouldn't I lose my settings that way too? Manichean, that sounds interesting, can you point me to a place where I can read more about this?

12-06-2010, 10:13 AM	#5
Manichean Wizard Posts: 3,130 Karma: 91256 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Device: Cybook Gen3	Try the manual for help on the CLI tools. As for the "losing your settings" thing, you either want to use your Kindle with Calibre, in which case disabling the plugin would be unwise because Calibre wouldn't recognize the device any more, or you don't want to use it, in which case there aren't any relevant settings to be lost. Either way, I believe the settings you may or may not need are preserved when the plugin is disabled.

12-06-2010, 04:19 PM	#6
WS64 ♫ Posts: 660 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	Manichean, thanks, the command line works fine. This is actually the way I want it, no need to start calibra at all and add files to a library, just wrote a batch file with all my settings and now can right click on an epub to convert it directly to mobi. There is just one problem... The new mobi file is significant bigger than the mobi created by Calibre with my own default settings, and I can't find why. I have added to my batch file all the parameters the same way as they are in Calibre (not all of them are available in the options for the command line, and I think there are some that are just available in the command line and not in Calibre itself). First I thought there is something wrong with the compression, so I even tried to convert using --dont-compress just to see if that was on by default. It was not, the file got even bigger... So what can cause the file to get bigger with the command line options compared to what Calibre does? My epub file was 173K, Command line made it a 300K Mobi, and Calibre makes it 227K mobi

12-06-2010, 06:52 PM	#7
Manichean Wizard Posts: 3,130 Karma: 91256 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Device: Cybook Gen3	So, is a difference of 3K really relevant? If you really have to know, ask Kovid how the GUI calls the CLI tools.

12-06-2010, 07:19 PM	#8
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,860 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	the GUI doesn't call the CLI tools, they're both interfaces that call the underlying modules. And the system is complex enough that it's not easy to give you an answer. Use the -vv command line argument to produce a list of all options used in the conversion and compare it with the conversion log from teh GUI

12-07-2010, 02:20 AM	#9
WS64 ♫ Posts: 660 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	Thanks Kovid, I'll try that! Manichean, 73K you mean (227 vs 300K)... Well, my Kindle is full (just a few hundred MB free), so if every file gets 1/4 or 1/3 bigger it will be a problem

12-07-2010, 03:08 PM	#11
WS64 ♫ Posts: 660 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	Kovid, where do I find any GUI logs?

12-07-2010, 03:09 PM	#12
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,860 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	click the rotating spinner in the bottom right corner.

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12-07-2010, 04:03 PM	#13
WS64 ♫ Posts: 660 Karma: 506380 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kobo Aura / PB Lux 2 / Bookeen Frontlight / Kobo Mini / Nook Color	Kovin, thanks again. I compared both, full results here The few differences are - "cover" and "read_metadata_from_opf", but I guess this is just because Calibre extract the files first from my epub. - 0 instead 0.0 at CMD - level1_toc/level2_toc: I was not able to tell my program to use //h:h3 or //h:h4, when I try this ebook-convert.exe creates a directory h3 and puts all the stuff there instead of creating a mobi file. None of those seems to be important to the filesize... There must be another difference.

12-07-2010, 04:48 PM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,860 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	the cover is the difference. specify a cover on the command line using --cover