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Old 09-29-2012, 08:57 AM   #241
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How is that in any way relevant to the vast majority of books publishing, which is fiction for recreational reading? Do you propose some system by which you can force someone to do "mandatory excercises" when they buy a trashy romance novel? If not, then maybe you could try to come up with something relevant to the real world.
If you read more carefully you see that is was an answer to a specific question. Maybe you try to read better to come up with more relevant posts.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:07 AM   #242
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Says the guy who was ingorant of the historical example of what happens when you do away with coypright.
Lucky then that I did not argue from ignorance. Did you really miss that or did you just ignore it to make an ad hominen attack?

Try to write towards the arguments instead of attacking persons. You know according to the rules for the site.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:19 PM   #243
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Well, Taustin, old mate, you have finally convinced me, from now on I will drop to my knees twice daily and give thanks to the copyright gods.
It's good to know I've accomplished something worthwhile.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:22 PM   #244
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Vast majority? On MobileRead I think, but not generally.

I'm having a hard time finding good statistics on this, but the following gives some idea:

[Bestselling books of 2011: the top 100 listed

Certainly fiction for recreational reading is the biggest single category, but when you add up all the small categories, they come to more. Here is a link on that, found in my last link:

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/data...s/type-of-book
Which is to say, I was largely correct, in that "mandatory excercises" for textbooks are not, in any way, relevant to the vast majority of publishing.

Good of you to agree.
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If you read more carefully you see that is was an answer to a specific question. Maybe you try to read better to come up with more relevant posts.
Maybe you should try to participate in the same conversation as everybody else.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:24 PM   #246
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Lucky then that I did not argue from ignorance. Did you really miss that or did you just ignore it to make an ad hominen attack?

Try to write towards the arguments instead of attacking persons. You know according to the rules for the site.
When I see agruments, and not "I don't wanna pay for what I take!" whining, perhaps I will.

In the meantime, the very title of this thread precludes the possibility of reasoned argument.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:04 PM   #247
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When I see agruments, and not "I don't wanna pay for what I take!" whining, perhaps I will.

In the meantime, the very title of this thread precludes the possibility of reasoned argument.
I seem to recall that this was mostly about format shifting with the possibility of lending that shifted format to another while precluding access to any and all formats made from the original copy from yourself.

This sounds reasonable, no need to argue about it.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:44 PM   #248
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It's good to know I've accomplished something worthwhile.
My cup runneth over.

1. Hawthorn lost the Grand Final.
2. Approbation from my new guru.
3. Another couple of "taustin specials" for use in polite, calm rational debate on the issues, without things like sarcasm and name-calling:
try to participate in the same conversation as everybody else
"I don't wanna pay for what I take!" whining
the very title of this thread precludes the possibility of reasoned argument

(not too sure about that last one though, taustin old buddy; it could be read by some as a double-edged sword applying to posts on both sides of the argument, if you get my drift).

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Old 09-30-2012, 08:39 PM   #249
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I seem to recall that this was mostly about format shifting with the possibility of lending that shifted format to another while precluding access to any and all formats made from the original copy from yourself.

This sounds reasonable, no need to argue about it.
That sounds illegal, no need to whine about it unless your intent is to do something illegal.
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Indeed, it is, when you listen to your betters.
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Indeed, it is, when you listen to your betters.
Thank you, thank you guru, if you could just let me know who my betters are I'll make sure I always listen to them from now on, I definitely wouldn't want to be the one responsible for God not being in his Heaven.

(PS, it looks like the ungodly missed your admission to tompe in post #246 that you found it impossible to engage in reasoned argument on this topic. I think we've got away with it so far, so just remember, don't mention the war, ).
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