09-06-2014, 01:09 PM | #31 |
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[QUOTE=PeterT;2916371]And how about a new user of Calibre on XP or MAC who wants to install one of your plugins?
They do not have to install the addon. The current and soon to be previous version will still work and still be available. AFAIK How exactly are THEY meant to accomplish this feat when you, in your exalted state, have decided to only support 2.2 and above? When you refer to THEY, do you include yourself or are you getting upset on behalf of some imaginary person? And what do you mean by his 'exalted state'? Is that another term for THE GUY THAT WROTE THE THING? I also don't know anyone that doesn't keep there calibre up to date. If you're still required to use Calibre 1.48 then bless you and your grandchildren but please take the time to look at your calender; It may need updating. Also, davidfor is discussing YOUR plugin here. All we have been trying to do is to help YOU out. So sorry to have interfered in your private little world. It sounds more like you are trying to TELL HIM WHAT TO DO with his plugin, rather than HELP him as you claim. And to call refer to his 'private little world' in a forum on a global network that connects him to every user and non-user of his software, AND HE RESPONDS, well that just stupid. Sorry to say it, but your parents may have been related before they got married. I would suggest counting the branches on your family tree before you concern yourself with what other people do with their spare time. DaltonST, Thank you very much for your efforts. It's is appreciated by people that don't expect everything handed to them at the snap of a finger. |
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That said, Why lock out older Calibre if you don't really need a feature that only exists in a newer version. ? I can't speak to how much effort (or code) was added to make the old PI QT5 compatible. By all means, don't hamstring your work if QT4 compatibility is not easily achievable |
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I do think that if at all possible, keep in Qt4 compatibility for those on XP or older OS X and 1.48. Unless of course, there's something in the plugin that won't work under 1.48. Making plugins only run on 2.x is cutting off your possible audience.
But as has been said, it's your choice to make such a mistake as it's your plugin. |
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What he did was to send me PM warning me of a possible issue with my plugins. When I looked, I discovered it wasn't a problem for me, but an error in how this plugin was coded. I could see why he thought what he did and have no problem with the error. If there is going to be a problem, I want to hear about it as early as possible. In any case, I would have seen the thread a little later in the day and done the investigation to see if I was going to have a problem. And then reported in this thread my findings. i.e. Done exactly what I did. Quote:
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A Windows user is probably more prone to that also. A much simpler solution would be for you to simply mark your plugin as compatible with older versions -- since it is. Of course, it is your plugin and you may do whatever you wish with it, but I fail to see what purpose there is in doing so. You are not using any code which requires 2.2, so who benefits when you go out of your way to mark it to require 2.2? Regarding the bug reporter discovering it on a Mac: as I assume you have more than one user, I am unsure what you are trying to say. I truly admire your caring and friendly approach to tech support and interaction with the online community. </sarcasm> Also, perhaps you should keep in mind that not everything is a personal attack on you. Last edited by eschwartz; 09-07-2014 at 01:00 AM. |
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Your comment concerns Qt4, which is totally off topic. The issue has absolutely nothing to do with Qt4 or Qt5. Nothing. |
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Switching from an older version of OS X or XP to some version Linux is not an option and it's not even a valid suggestion. |
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Since it doesn't, I don't see the harm in allowing its use... but that is a different issue. And the developer is still king and can literally do whatever the hell he wants with it. Also while we are at it, why don't we confuse calibre 2.x with Qt5? Regarding linux as "not an option and not even a valid suggestion", please take your insensitive foulness elsewhere, you are helping nothing. (And I have already explained a far more reasonable perspective on that issue.) |
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In any event, you are obviously allowed to do whatever you want with it... but I fail to see what the purpose of your sticking point is. If you are of the opinion that XP users should be forced to install a linux distro or buy a new computer, well, I am not sure why you should feel so strongly to lie about your plugin's compatibility for that admittedly noble goal but keep in mind that most people are Windows users for a reason -- they don't know how to do that without someone holding their hand the whole way; also, that is a fairly big step to be taking solely for the sake of this plugin(s). And shockingly, money is an issue for some people. *Even* $50. Quote:
I would think you'd like to make it easier for people to use your stuff. That is the usual reason for sharing one's work free of charge. The only reason I would see to mark your plugin(s) as incompatible with 1.48 would be if you genuinely believed they wouldn't work on that version -- but you have been told otherwise: Quote:
But if you are determined to hobble your work over a version declaration, we cannot stop you. Either way, I don't think there is anything more to be said on the matter. Bye, now. |
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@DaltonST - I hope it's safe to ask a question about the plugin's functionality, rather than its preferred eco-system, or whatever this week's in-word is with the Geek Nobility
From what I can gather the plug-in mandates that I create a column called genres/Genres, is there any chance of changing the plugin so that I create a column of the required type and put the name I want into the PI's configuration. Example: the Count Pages PI requires the creation of custom columns but the user determines the names thereof. One of my pet private peeves about calibre is that I can't change the name of the 'standard columns' - eg for my journals library it suits me to put the Journal Name in Author and the Issue no/Date/Month in Title. I would love have the wherewithal to relabel them Journal and Issue for that library. Maybe I could set up a column with the name I want with type "Column built from other columns, behaves like tags" with a template of {genre} and hide the Genre Column. I did try that with Author & Title in my Journals library, it was a PITA workflow wise - so I dropped the derived columns, in favour of misleading column labels Ψ² pssst : does the PI work with calibre 2.3 BR Last edited by BetterRed; 09-20-2014 at 07:06 PM. |
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The field name must be #genre. That is what is defined in the custom-columns table in metadata.db. Calibre knows it by that name and no other. The label that appears as the column name that you actually see can be anything that you wish. You can label the #genre column 'Title' or 'Tags' if you wish. The label is just that; a mere word that appears at the top of the column and in the embedded metadata of a book.
Historical Calibre design decisions regarding custom columns should be investigated in the Development forum. Plugins merely work within the existing design parameters of Calibre. Plugins are the tail; Calibre wags it. The Development forum is where you might seek answers about your generic issues with custom columns. |
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Because of the above, you can set the name used by the plugin for the custom column. Or, you can do like most plugins that us custom columns and allow the user to call it whatever they want and then set it in the plugin configuration. |
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When creating custom columns I create them with an external name that is readily maps to the internal name eg my Last Action Date column has an internal name of #last_action_date. I've attached the configuration dialogue for the Count Pages PI, it will compute up to 5 counters/indexes - each one of which requires a custom column in which to store the result. The names of the custom columns are a user decision - if I wanted the Word count to be Barks externally and #meows internally then I could, but I prefer Words and #wordcount The only place where #genre is baked into the code is in your PI. That makes it unattractive to make use of your PI for anything other than the narrow purpose that you've targeted - which is a pity because I think I might have been able to used it for somewhat different purpose. BR Last edited by BetterRed; 09-21-2014 at 05:44 AM. Reason: forgot attachment |
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