And in this corner! -- Sony/Amazon "Cage Match!" - Page 2

Kingston · 03-03-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

Thanks to both Kingston and Stacy for pointing it out to us!

Thanks for referring to my thread. The author of that page has posted in the thread I started.

Now that I've had my Kindle a while, I'm itchy to buy a different device, not because I'm dissatisfied, but just out of curiosity.

I'd love to buy and try out the 505 but I'm on a Mac.

3 out or 4 of the 'Big Four' devices are compatible with Mobi files. If I have a non-DRM book I can transfer it to the Kindle, Gen3 or Iliad, but not the Sony which uses LRF, unless I convert it.

That seems to sort of doom the Sony to a niche position. I know it's a great unit, but a non-techy user will lack the skills to transfer his documents into Sony-friendly format.

I agree, this stuff has been hashed and rehashed ad nauseum over here for months.

spirits · 03-03-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

(Of course, given Kindle's looks, and the missus' comments, maybe keeping it out of stores was the idea all along...

)
waiting to see it come down in price!

That's what I hear a lot of people say as well, which made me hesitant about getting the kindle a month ago. To my surprise, it feels and looks pretty good in real life. Have a look at it if you ever get a chance. Kindle looks nice.

NatCh · 03-03-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingston

That seems to sort of doom the Sony to a niche position. I know it's a great unit, but a non-techy user will lack the skills to transfer his documents into Sony-friendly format.

The Sony is real friendly-like with RTF files -- it reads them natively: no conversion needed.

Yeah, it's been talked to death

but there're always new folks who benefit from revisiting it.

moz · 03-03-2008, 07:20 PM

I'm really hoping the SoriBook is pretty much a Sony with an extra "draw on me" feature. I like my Sony. I want to draw, but not so much that I'll buy an iLiad instead.

Donnageddon · 03-04-2008, 04:09 AM

I am envious of the Kindle "whispernet", and the access to wikipedia, and the dictionary (one of the things I love about my EB 1150), and the Amazon price point, but I am content with the PRS-505.

I think it will not take to long for all these features to be common amongst all the e-ink devices.

This is in the baby stages. But I am excited about what we have now: Choices!

MaggieScratch · 03-04-2008, 12:16 PM

I like the article, the "competition" is obviously friendly and they're having fun with it. I think it highlights my own contention that it's not so much that one reader is better than another, it's that each person has one reader that's right for them. (And some people are still waiting for their dream device, of course.) I think the Kindle and Sony Reader are great devices (and I was fortunate enough to be able to play with a co-worker's Kindle so I wouldn't have been buying it sight-unseen), but the Cybook was the right choice for me at this moment in time.

NatCh · 03-04-2008, 12:52 PM

I totally agree. Very few things in life are "best" or even "better," only best available for a given person or purpose. It's an important thing to remember, not only does it keep the blood pressure down, it leads to a generally more content outlook on things.

esperanc · 03-05-2008, 04:03 PM

Much of this discussion is centered on the wireless capabilities of the Kindle and the prices of ebooks at Amazon and Sony stores. These are not relevant issues for somebody here in Brazil. We can't buy ebooks in either store (they require a U.S.-issued credit card - mostly, I read free ebooks which I convert from .lit or .html. ). The wireless capabilities are useless here. So, these issues aside, which one should I trade my PRS500 for?

moz · 03-05-2008, 05:40 PM

Outside the US I think the choice is Sony 505 or the iLiad. The Sony is cheaper.

Why do you want to trade your 500? Is it not working well any more or do you just want a new toy?

esperanc · 03-05-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by moz

Outside the US I think the choice is Sony 505 or the iLiad. The Sony is cheaper.

Why do you want to trade your 500? Is it not working well any more or do you just want a new toy?

Mostly because of the new screen. After 1 and a half year, the contrast in my PRS500 is not what it once was, and I understand that the VizPlex technology improves things a bit. I am perfectly happy with my PRS500 otherwise. In fact, I probably will wait until the end of 2008 to see if a new model (PRS510?) is coming.

moz · 03-05-2008, 09:12 PM

Hmm, I hope the display on my 505 lasts longer than that. I'm hoping to amortise the cost of the thing over quite a few years, not 18 months. Not having seen a 500, I am happy with the 505 - it's not as good as paper but it's certainly readable enough for me.

NatCh · 03-05-2008, 11:45 PM

I've had mine for going on 18 months and I think the contrast has dropped some, but not enough to be getting excited about.

HarryT · 03-06-2008, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moz

Outside the US I think the choice is Sony 505 or the iLiad.

Really? Why not the CyBook?

HarryT · 03-06-2008, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by esperanc

Much of this discussion is centered on the wireless capabilities of the Kindle and the prices of ebooks at Amazon and Sony stores. These are not relevant issues for somebody here in Brazil. We can't buy ebooks in either store (they require a U.S.-issued credit card - mostly, I read free ebooks which I convert from .lit or .html. ). The wireless capabilities are useless here. So, these issues aside, which one should I trade my PRS500 for?

I'd suggest a device which can read the MobiPocket format. There are dozens of different MobiPocket bookstores, all of which sell books world-wide.

You can read MobiPocket books on dozens of different devices. In the area of eInk readers, there's the iLiad and the CyBook.

bbusybookworm · 04-10-2008, 07:57 PM

For Outside the US, Have to go With Either the Sony PRS-505 or the Cybook.
Sorry, But the Price of the Illiad is Ridicules in Europe, Especially the UK after factoring in all the costs (VAT, Shipping, Etc).

Just went thru a similar decision, when I passed on My PRS 500 On to my Mom (Actually originally got it with that in mind) and missed it so much that had to get a replacement. After E-Ink cant go back to reading ebooks full time on my PDA.

So decided to order a Cybook last week, and ordered it through NAEB, as the UK price for the Basic Package from Bookeen was more expensive then the NAEB package even after factoring in shiping and Customs duty. <shakes Head>

So Fingers crossed, I'll ave it in my hot little hands somtime next month.

03-05-2008, 04:03 PM	#23
esperanc Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Sony Reader	What if you're not in the U.S.? Much of this discussion is centered on the wireless capabilities of the Kindle and the prices of ebooks at Amazon and Sony stores. These are not relevant issues for somebody here in Brazil. We can't buy ebooks in either store (they require a U.S.-issued credit card - mostly, I read free ebooks which I convert from .lit or .html. ). The wireless capabilities are useless here. So, these issues aside, which one should I trade my PRS500 for?

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03-03-2008, 07:20 PM	#19
moz Addict Posts: 370 Karma: 1553 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbun Device: Kobo H2O	I'm really hoping the SoriBook is pretty much a Sony with an extra "draw on me" feature. I like my Sony. I want to draw, but not so much that I'll buy an iLiad instead.

03-04-2008, 04:09 AM	#20
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	I am envious of the Kindle "whispernet", and the access to wikipedia, and the dictionary (one of the things I love about my EB 1150), and the Amazon price point, but I am content with the PRS-505. I think it will not take to long for all these features to be common amongst all the e-ink devices. This is in the baby stages. But I am excited about what we have now: Choices!

03-04-2008, 12:16 PM	#21
MaggieScratch Has got to the black veil Posts: 542 Karma: 2144168 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Device: Kobo Aura One, Kindle Paperwhite 2	I like the article, the "competition" is obviously friendly and they're having fun with it. I think it highlights my own contention that it's not so much that one reader is better than another, it's that each person has one reader that's right for them. (And some people are still waiting for their dream device, of course.) I think the Kindle and Sony Reader are great devices (and I was fortunate enough to be able to play with a co-worker's Kindle so I wouldn't have been buying it sight-unseen), but the Cybook was the right choice for me at this moment in time.

03-04-2008, 12:52 PM	#22
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I totally agree. Very few things in life are "best" or even "better," only best available for a given person or purpose. It's an important thing to remember, not only does it keep the blood pressure down, it leads to a generally more content outlook on things.

03-05-2008, 05:40 PM	#24
moz Addict Posts: 370 Karma: 1553 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbun Device: Kobo H2O	Outside the US I think the choice is Sony 505 or the iLiad. The Sony is cheaper. Why do you want to trade your 500? Is it not working well any more or do you just want a new toy?

03-05-2008, 09:12 PM	#26
moz Addict Posts: 370 Karma: 1553 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbun Device: Kobo H2O	Hmm, I hope the display on my 505 lasts longer than that. I'm hoping to amortise the cost of the thing over quite a few years, not 18 months. Not having seen a 500, I am happy with the 505 - it's not as good as paper but it's certainly readable enough for me.

03-05-2008, 11:45 PM	#27
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I've had mine for going on 18 months and I think the contrast has dropped some, but not enough to be getting excited about.

04-10-2008, 07:57 PM	#30
bbusybookworm Tech Junkie Posts: 1,027 Karma: 10080 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Earth Device: iPad, MotoXStyle, OnePlusOne	For Outside the US, Have to go With Either the Sony PRS-505 or the Cybook. Sorry, But the Price of the Illiad is Ridicules in Europe, Especially the UK after factoring in all the costs (VAT, Shipping, Etc). Just went thru a similar decision, when I passed on My PRS 500 On to my Mom (Actually originally got it with that in mind) and missed it so much that had to get a replacement. After E-Ink cant go back to reading ebooks full time on my PDA. So decided to order a Cybook last week, and ordered it through NAEB, as the UK price for the Basic Package from Bookeen was more expensive then the NAEB package even after factoring in shiping and Customs duty. <shakes Head> So Fingers crossed, I'll ave it in my hot little hands somtime next month.

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