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Old 06-23-2013, 07:15 AM   #61
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Yes.
The e-ink display is a meta-stable device.
It only uses power when being redrawn.
Hi,

Well here we are, the afternoon after. The battery has been disconnected and sadly the diag screen is still there.

Thoughts? Is it now truly bricked?

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Old 06-23-2013, 08:25 AM   #62
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Hi,

Well here we are, the afternoon after. The battery has been disconnected and sadly the diag screen is still there.

Thoughts? Is it now truly bricked?

A.
Hook the battery back up and give it a try to find out.
The display is not going to change until the system writes to it.

The removing the battery and letting everything discharge in the electronics was to be certain the machine did a "cold" re-boot.
Not to cause the screen display to change while the battery was removed.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:35 PM   #63
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Hook the battery back up and give it a try to find out.
The display is not going to change until the system writes to it.

The removing the battery and letting everything discharge in the electronics was to be certain the machine did a "cold" re-boot.
Not to cause the screen display to change while the battery was removed.
Hi,

Ok Battery reconnected. Tried to power it on/off whichever - sadly no luck. Any pointers on powering it on? I tried with the case off - not sure if there is a mini-switch to tell the kindle the back is on...?

Welcome any thoughts :-)
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Either the battery is completely dead, or the Kindle itself is now spare parts.
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I don't think the battery would have gone dead so quickly... This is not looking good. I thought Kubrick would have worked. Is it possible that Kubrick flash the Kindle with the wrong software?

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Oh dear

Hi again,

In the attached image you can see the problem. I have tried leaving the battery lead off, but alas, to no avail. It is stuck on this screen and nothing works at all.

I suspect it is now just spare parts

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Hi again,

In the attached image you can see the problem. I have tried leaving the battery lead off, but alas, to no avail. It is stuck on this screen and nothing works at all.

I suspect it is now just spare parts

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For some releases of the diag. firmware, the "Exit" function only works over the serial console port.

(That diag. menu is also being written to the serial console port.)
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Ok so is it worth re-trying plugging it in? Perhaps it's in a loop or something?

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Ok so is it worth re-trying plugging it in? Perhaps it's in a loop or something?

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Charging might still work.
At least I guess that is what you meant by "plugging it in".
Try it.

That might be "normal" operation for your version of the diagnostics firmware.

Ah,
Did you try the menu entry that is shown highlighted?

If you did, then did it show up as USB storage when you plugged it into your PC?

If it did, was their an "ENABLE_DIAGS" file in the root of USB storage?

If there was, did you try to delete it, eject the storage, unplug the cable and re-boot the Kindle? (verrrry loooong press on power button).
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I will try it later for sure. How long is "verrrry loooong" - ten minutes? or perhaps two minutes

The last time I tried, there was no life; however, I've tried fiddling with the battery. If nothing happens when I plug it back in, what are my options?

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I will try it later for sure. How long is "verrrry loooong" - ten minutes? or perhaps two minutes

The last time I tried, there was no life; however, I've tried fiddling with the battery. If nothing happens when I plug it back in, what are my options?

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1) User manual says 20 seconds, try 30 seconds just to be sure.
2) E-Bay "For Parts or Not Working"
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Haha ok I'll give it a try this evening. Failing that, eBay all the way *sigh*.

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Hi again,

In the attached image you can see the problem. I have tried leaving the battery lead off, but alas, to no avail. It is stuck on this screen and nothing works at all.

I suspect it is now just spare parts

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Hi.

Press THE RIGHT HAND ARROW bit. (of the 4 way at the bottom)

See? It's saying that at the bottom... FW RIGHT to exit (Four Way Right to exit)

only that key press will exit the Diags.
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Hi

That doesn't work. It's stuck on that screen

Any other ideas?

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Hmmmm "Doesn't work" in the sense that when you pressed it the screen didn't change?

This thread is titled "Kindle 4 NT: No SSH" - so do you have SSH access or not...
Because if you DO then that might not be a bad idea.

Are you saying the device is "Stuck" in debug mode.

At this point I think it more likely the screen is actually broken.
What happens when you Hold down the power for 20 seconds.

Does the screen flash? Do the lights change?

If the lights change and the screen does nothing I would guess that the screen(/screen controller) is actually toast.

EDIT: However I currently have a few kindle 3's that also fail to update the screen and I know those screens work.

Serial cable time.
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