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Old 02-28-2012, 09:12 AM   #46
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My conclusion is that it doesn't support KF8, or that they found problems and 1.9.1 removed whatever support they had.
I can confirm K4PC 1.9.0 does support KF8 ebooks. I just ran the latest version of DumpMobiHeader.py on one of the ebooks and it ONLY had the Mobi8 part (no mobi 6 or earlier version was included in the book).

So if K4PC 1.9.1 does not support KF8 ebooks properly, then perhaps it was immediately yanked? And if so, I wonder why?

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Old 02-28-2012, 09:32 AM   #47
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I just updated to v1.9.1 and I can confirm it's still displaying KF8 content. Perhaps they haven't added support for Fixed Layout KF8's yet. I don't have any to test.

I still have to manually place the file in Kindle's Library folder, though. It won't work by double clicking the mobi outside of the app. Not sure what's up with that.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:46 AM   #48
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Do KF8 books work on the eink devices yet?
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:52 AM   #49
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Do KF8 books work on the eink devices yet?
I don't know, really. I still have a K2 and I don't expect to ever have KF8 support, to tell the truth.

There's some KF8 samples floating around that you should be able to sideload on a newer Kindle eink device and tell pretty quickly, though.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:25 AM   #50
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Do KF8 books work on the eink devices yet?
No. Amazon haven't yet released the firmware updates to support KF8. We know that it will be supported on (at least) the KT and KNT.
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I just updated to v1.9.1 and I can confirm it's still displaying KF8 content. Perhaps they haven't added support for Fixed Layout KF8's yet. I don't have any to test.

I still have to manually place the file in Kindle's Library folder, though. It won't work by double clicking the mobi outside of the app. Not sure what's up with that.
You can download samples from the KF8 information page:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000729511

It does support fixed-layout (though as I stated before, it won't download them from Archives, so it is kind of pointless). But there seems to be no way to navigate from one 'panel view' to the next: the cursor keys just dismiss panel view and turn the page. And yes, you need to put them in the My Kindle Content folder first.

For best results, you need to change the Words Per Line setting to the maximum.

Does anyone know how to tell if any given title is available in KF8 format? Apart from downloading samples to Fire? I would imagine that everything being submitted to Kindle Store now should have a KF8 edition, if the new kindlegen is used (or if Amazon is converting an ePub).

UPDATE: 'regular' books that are available in KF8 format (such as O'Reilly titles) do get delivered in KF8 format to K4PC. But there are at least a couple of problems right off:
- no 2 column view for KF8
- synching may be problematic: I downloaded the 'same' sample to K4PC and KTouch and went to location '200'. They landed in radically different places, and over the course of a full size ebook, can only diverge more.

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Old 02-29-2012, 12:02 PM   #52
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What's the big deal? Just download to your Kindle instead of K4PC and strip the DRM from that.
Maby its a big deal for such folks doesn't have an kindle
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There is a new 1.9 version for Kindle for Mac out now. I just got a popup wanting me to upgrade mine, I declined.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:43 AM   #54
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Maby its a big deal for such folks doesn't have an kindle
The person to whom I was replying does have a Kindle .
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Sounds, though, as if it's probably best to stick with older versions of K4PC - at least until Calibre understands KF8.
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Sounds, though, as if it's probably best to stick with older versions of K4PC - at least until Calibre understands KF8.
A valid point to consider. There's going to be some confusion as a result of not realizing someone has a stand-alone KF8 file on their hands.
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A valid point to consider. There's going to be some confusion as a result of not realizing someone has a stand-alone KF8 file on their hands.
I just went to Amazon's site and figured I'd download the K4PC v1.9.x and it downloaded the old version 1.8.3. Tried on another computer and same thing. Any insight on this?

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I just went to Amazon's site and figured I'd download the K4PC v1.9.x and it downloaded the old version 1.8.3. Tried on another computer and same thing. Any insight on this?

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Seems pretty random. I just downloaded and installed today on brand-new computer and ended up with v1.8.3. But I've also got v1.9.0 and v1.9.1 on different computers, too. All downloaded from the same page at Amazon. I'm not sure what they've got going on there. Try refreshing the webpage a lot while logging out and back in (that's just a wild-a$$ idea, I have no idea if it will make a difference, but I know I see two completely different styles on Amazon's website depending on what browser/computer I'm using).
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