07-18-2009, 10:10 AM | #46 |
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I think Amazon needs to work on their public relations. This wasn't a well thought out response by them regardless of the legality of the book they sold.
The thought that Amazon can come in whenever they please and do as they like with my property is very disturbing. It feels like I'm just renting my DX. The landlord can come in and swap out the microwave while I'm at work, I get no say in the matter. Actually, Amazon isn't even as respectable as my last landlord, at least they would have stuck a note under my door letting me know that they needed to come in for maintenance. I've been keeping the wireless off on my Kindle unless I needed Amazon to sync books, mostly to save my Kindle's battery. I think now that I'll keep the wireless off for good....to save my privacy as well as the DRM'd books I'm renting from Amazon. -robert |
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Not having title to the IP rights doesn't mean you don't own that copy of a particular bit of IP.
You don't own title or IP rights to a paperback book, but if a store discovers it's been selling bootlegged copies, they don't have the right to come into your house & reclaim the one they sold you. |
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I explicitly acknowledged the fact that I'm renting books from Amazon in my message. What I don't like is that they can come in unannounced to my property...the Kindle DX. In my opinion, it is not OK for any Internet connected device manufacturer to come into a device I have purchased without my express consent given on a case-by-case basis. If I lost that right due to legal wording of an EULA then I'll just keep the wireless off. -robert |
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Kindles delete content automatically as a matter of routine. Eg, if you subscribe to a newspaper on the Kindle, every issue more than a certain number of days old is automatically deleted. |
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Scheduled deletion of expired content is being performed locally not by the mother ship accessing my library. |
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How many threads do we actually need to have about Amazon deleting illegally sold content from Kindles? And why is it that people are getting out of sorts on something that was the right thing to do? And why do you have a Kindle if you don't want Amazon to be able to get inside?
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I believe that it's Amazon's server telling the Kindle to delete it. I'm sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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This means that the intellectual property inherent in the Kindle is not transferred to you. This has nothing to do with the intellectual property in the books that you "buy" and put on the kindle. You need to look at the book sale agreement to determine whether you own the books or not. If you do own the books then deleting them off the kindle is a form of tort.
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Are you sure? I read the "intellectual property rights of Amazon or its suppliers" (my emphasis) as referring to the books that are in the Kindle store.
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If this was not a wake up call to people nothing is. Every book that one buys from Amazon should be stripped of the DRM and personal archive copy in MOBI format should be kept by the owner. I believe that this is contemplated and allowed by law as long as you don't distribute the copy to others.
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This is no longer a useful discussion. Both sides are dug in and points have been expressed. There would have to be a court(s) decision to take this to its ultimate decision.
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Yes, you're absolutely right. I shall say no more on the matter.
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