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xav · 11-22-2019, 01:46 PM

Hello,
I had the same problem today, I've updated Calibre to the last version 4.4 and it works now fine. My previous version was v 3.8 for info.

vike1108 · 11-24-2019, 09:39 PM

Just wanted to report I was able to download The Economist's Nov 23-29 issue without any problems. I did nothing to update/change recipe and did not upgrade Calibre to the latest version before trying (i.e., everything on the Calibre side was exactly as it was when having problems downloading the Nov 15-22 issue). Whatever it was must have been on the host end, perhaps as Kovid suggested something region specific (I'm in the U.S.). In any case, it's cleared up for me now, hopefully for everyone else as well.

Dan23 · 11-25-2019, 07:37 PM

To add to the sample, I (US resident) was also experiencing this for the current issue (I think I downloaded on Friday 11-22), but it happily seems to have been resolved without any action on my part other than trying again today.

Bola de Fogo · 11-27-2019, 07:37 PM

For me there are times when it goes fine and others when the problem appears again

technicaltitch · 11-29-2019, 12:50 AM

I had the issue from London and Ethiopia this week, then second attempt in London worked, so given London is their prime paid market and Ethiopia very much not, and I got the opposite last week, it doesn't look geographical. Maybe they are A-B testing the impact or reliability of servers with stronger protection.

Rydon · 12-05-2019, 01:53 AM

Hello,

Thought I'd add into this. The Economist paywall seems to have changed. Page behaviour is now that the full article text loads, then some script operates which removes the latter part of the story from the page and replaces that text with a 'subscribe to read more' section.

If you block scripts from executing in Chrome you can view articles. Suspect the recipe should be updated to block scripts too.

kovidgoyal · 12-05-2019, 03:29 AM

The recipe does not run scripts, at all. And as far as I know the economist paywall has always operated like that.

goios · 12-05-2019, 07:29 PM

to add my grain of salt, from Sydney Australia, the abridged version gets downloaded every now and again. For now I haven't missed any issue, but for example couldn't yet download this week's issue yet.

Also tried downloading behind nordvpn but the problem is the same.

After a picture and one paragraph, articles end like this:

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finleyz · 12-05-2019, 09:48 PM

Confirmed that this recipe is broken at my end. It can no longer generate the full economist version. I tried IPs from Japan and the U.S. but neither worked.

kovidgoyal · 12-06-2019, 03:47 AM

Simply have to wait till they finish whatever A/B testing they are doing and the server responses stabilize, then the recipe can be adapted as needed. Right now given that the server decides randomnly to send or not send the modified HTML its kinda hard to fix.

For instance I had to run the download 3 times today before I got the non-abridged version.

finleyz · 12-06-2019, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Simply have to wait till they finish whatever A/B testing they are doing and the server responses stabilize, then the recipe can be adapted as needed. Right now given that the server decides randomnly to send or not send the modified HTML its kinda hard to fix.

For instance I had to run the download 3 times today before I got the non-abridged version.

Yes, I was able to download a non-abridged version late today.

xav · 12-06-2019, 12:18 PM

I'm not a developer, so just an idea if it's not too much work: is there a way to change the periodic title with "[abridged, pls DL again!] The Economist" if we pick this wrong version (so if the periodic contains the key words/phrases contained in the page that abridges an article) ?

xav · 12-06-2019, 12:30 PM

...Or even delete it and download automatically a second time ?

Dan23 · 12-07-2019, 01:22 AM

Happened again to me Friday AM during automatic run and when I tried again Saturday early AM. I use the recipe that has a rectangular icon. I tried the other recipe also and still got the truncated version. Any tips on whether to wait some amount of time to try again or to keep trying right after truncated version until it works? Thanks.

xav · 12-07-2019, 05:44 AM

Hi Dan23, As Kovid explained, this is not due to the recipe or Calibre Program, but to the servers @The Economist.
Simply have to wait till they finish whatever A/B testing they are doing and the server responses stabilize, then the recipe can be adapted as needed. Right now given that the server decides randomnly to send or not send the modified HTML its kinda hard to fix.
For instance I had to run the download 3 times today before I got the non-abridged version.

I had the problem yesterday, 1st time abridged and more or less 5 mn later, started again an got the complete version.

11-29-2019, 12:50 AM	#20
technicaltitch Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Sony PRS 350	I had the issue from London and Ethiopia this week, then second attempt in London worked, so given London is their prime paid market and Ethiopia very much not, and I got the opposite last week, it doesn't look geographical. Maybe they are A-B testing the impact or reliability of servers with stronger protection. Last edited by technicaltitch; 11-29-2019 at 03:16 AM.

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11-22-2019, 01:46 PM	#16
xav Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle paperwhite 2	Hello, I had the same problem today, I've updated Calibre to the last version 4.4 and it works now fine. My previous version was v 3.8 for info.

11-24-2019, 09:39 PM	#17
vike1108 Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: United States Device: Kindle	Just wanted to report I was able to download The Economist's Nov 23-29 issue without any problems. I did nothing to update/change recipe and did not upgrade Calibre to the latest version before trying (i.e., everything on the Calibre side was exactly as it was when having problems downloading the Nov 15-22 issue). Whatever it was must have been on the host end, perhaps as Kovid suggested something region specific (I'm in the U.S.). In any case, it's cleared up for me now, hopefully for everyone else as well.

11-25-2019, 07:37 PM	#18
Dan23 Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 600000 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Scribe, Paperwhite 6.8"	To add to the sample, I (US resident) was also experiencing this for the current issue (I think I downloaded on Friday 11-22), but it happily seems to have been resolved without any action on my part other than trying again today.

11-27-2019, 07:37 PM	#19
Bola de Fogo Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2016 Device: Kindle Paper White	For me there are times when it goes fine and others when the problem appears again

12-05-2019, 01:53 AM	#21
Rydon Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2019 Device: Kindle via calibre	Hello, Thought I'd add into this. The Economist paywall seems to have changed. Page behaviour is now that the full article text loads, then some script operates which removes the latter part of the story from the page and replaces that text with a 'subscribe to read more' section. If you block scripts from executing in Chrome you can view articles. Suspect the recipe should be updated to block scripts too.

12-05-2019, 03:29 AM	#22
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,926 Karma: 22669820 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The recipe does not run scripts, at all. And as far as I know the economist paywall has always operated like that.

12-05-2019, 07:29 PM	#23
goios Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2014 Device: kindle paperwhite 10th gen	to add my grain of salt, from Sydney Australia, the abridged version gets downloaded every now and again. For now I haven't missed any issue, but for example couldn't yet download this week's issue yet. Also tried downloading behind nordvpn but the problem is the same. After a picture and one paragraph, articles end like this: Sign up to our free daily newsletter, The Economist today Sign up now Choose us for news analysis that respects your time and intelligence Subscribe to The Economist Save on annual and multi-year packages View subscription options → Cancel at any time. If you’re unsatisfied, we offer a money-back guarantee. * We filter out the noise of the daily news cycle and analyse the trends that matter We give you rigorous, deeply researched and fact-checked journalism. That’s why Americans named us their most trusted news source in 2017 Available wherever you are—in print, digital and, uniquely, in audio, fully narrated by professional broadcasters

12-05-2019, 09:48 PM	#24
finleyz Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2019 Device: kindle	Confirmed that this recipe is broken at my end. It can no longer generate the full economist version. I tried IPs from Japan and the U.S. but neither worked.

12-06-2019, 03:47 AM	#25
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,926 Karma: 22669820 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Simply have to wait till they finish whatever A/B testing they are doing and the server responses stabilize, then the recipe can be adapted as needed. Right now given that the server decides randomnly to send or not send the modified HTML its kinda hard to fix. For instance I had to run the download 3 times today before I got the non-abridged version.

12-06-2019, 12:18 PM	#27
xav Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle paperwhite 2	I'm not a developer, so just an idea if it's not too much work: is there a way to change the periodic title with "[abridged, pls DL again!] The Economist" if we pick this wrong version (so if the periodic contains the key words/phrases contained in the page that abridges an article) ?

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12-06-2019, 12:30 PM	#28
xav Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle paperwhite 2	...Or even delete it and download automatically a second time ?

12-07-2019, 01:22 AM	#29
Dan23 Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 600000 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Scribe, Paperwhite 6.8"	Happened again to me Friday AM during automatic run and when I tried again Saturday early AM. I use the recipe that has a rectangular icon. I tried the other recipe also and still got the truncated version. Any tips on whether to wait some amount of time to try again or to keep trying right after truncated version until it works? Thanks.

12-07-2019, 05:44 AM	#30
xav Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle paperwhite 2	Hi Dan23, As Kovid explained, this is not due to the recipe or Calibre Program, but to the servers @The Economist. Simply have to wait till they finish whatever A/B testing they are doing and the server responses stabilize, then the recipe can be adapted as needed. Right now given that the server decides randomnly to send or not send the modified HTML its kinda hard to fix. For instance I had to run the download 3 times today before I got the non-abridged version. I had the problem yesterday, 1st time abridged and more or less 5 mn later, started again an got the complete version.