Amazon Kindle out of stock again - back in a few weeks - Page 2

Alisa · 03-20-2008, 05:37 PM

Which seems to also be getting a tepid reaction.

spirits · 03-20-2008, 05:49 PM

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The fact that the Kindle is out of stock is not newsworthy. Bookeen and Sony and iRex have all been out of stock and it's just as not newsworthy.

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This is just silly. Amazon says we hope to have more units and everyone goes nuts. Other companies like Bookeen say it and nobody feels it's newsworthy. To be honest, it's not newsworthy. The Kindle is no more special then the Gen3, the 505, the iLiad, V3, or whatever.

Now if this was "We HAVE all the units needed to fill ALL the backorders" and it meant that PVI has ramped up production or some such then yes it would would worthy of all the attention.

Yeah, i'm sure you're trying really hard to shoot down a company with your obviously tinted lens.

Reminds me of kids and their console war just because they own an Xbox360 or PS3.

Nate the great · 03-20-2008, 05:54 PM

I think Jon merged the two threads.

Ebook lover · 03-20-2008, 11:22 PM

This is good news for the eBook market. It looks like there are huge demand for digital eBooks and eBook devices.

Alisa · 03-20-2008, 11:58 PM

I would agree. I think we're in a "rising tide lifts all boats" phase of the market.

JSWolf · 03-21-2008, 12:23 AM

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I think Jon merged the two threads.

Not at all did I merge them.

JSWolf · 03-21-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spirits

Yeah, i'm sure you're trying really hard to shoot down a company with your obviously tinted lens.

Reminds me of kids and their console war just because they own an Xbox360 or PS3.

Did you read what I actually said? I did say it's not newsworthy no matter which company could have said it be it Amazon, Sony, Bookeen, iRex, or Hanlin. Hoping for stock to fill backorders just doesn't merit much excitement overall.

spirits · 03-21-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Did you read what I actually said? I did say it's not newsworthy no matter which company could have said it be it Amazon, Sony, Bookeen, iRex, or Hanlin. Hoping for stock to fill backorders just doesn't merit much excitement overall.

Sure, you make total sense based solely on the context of this post. You're being fair to other devices. But if in this news, the word "Amazon" is replaced by "Sony Reader", you'll post a completely different post. Probably wouldn't say it's not newsworthy because Amazon has been out of stock for awhile.

The conflict comes in when you're eager to discredit Amazon while logically word it as if you're unbiased. Your action told me that while I was trying to make a point about the Kindle in my previous post but you vandalized it.

It's just more mature to compliment / compare readers you do support rather than discredit companies you don't support.

Donnageddon · 03-21-2008, 01:59 AM

This is bad news

If only because I am waiting for Kindle V2. I am not going to jump on the Kindle right now. I know it has some advantages, but I have the PRS-505, and I want Amazon to get desperate enough to smooth out the wrinkles on the Kindle.

I personally think the next Kindle will be an offer no one can refuse.

As long as they dump the draconian DRM.

Alisa · 03-21-2008, 02:20 AM

Interesting point. I wonder what it'll take to make a hardware Kindle 2.0. Will they wait for the next gen screen? How long are they willing to wait? Will they offer more sizes? Touchscreen? Or will if it takes too long for a next gen display, will they revamp Kindle 1.x with a few of the changes we've been clammoring for?

JSWolf · 03-21-2008, 02:34 AM

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Interesting point. I wonder what it'll take to make a hardware Kindle 2.0. Will they wait for the next gen screen? How long are they willing to wait? Will they offer more sizes? Touchscreen? Or will if it takes too long for a next gen display, will they revamp Kindle 1.x with a few of the changes we've been clamoring for?

I would hope the next generation would be something along the lines of the Netronix EB-300 with improvements.

I like the idea of a 9.7" screen (10" would be better) with a high resolution. But I'd also like a controller capable of 16 shades. 256 megs of ram for document storage. a smallish keyboard at the bottom that's also detachable. Wifi, touchscreen, many document formats including proper HTML support, and fully open to the user to be able to do his/her own thing like the iLiad. And a higher capacity battery with easy battery removal for swapping batteries as need be. And finally dictionary support for ALL the formats it reads.

I'm sure I'll think of other things sometime down the line but that would do for now.

Donnageddon · 03-24-2008, 02:19 AM

... and a coffee grinder/brewer.

And a bagel toaster.

just sayin'

rationalbiker · 03-24-2008, 04:51 AM

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I did say it's not newsworthy no matter which company could have said it be it Amazon, Sony, Bookeen, iRex, or Hanlin.

What criteria do you use to determine whether or not something is newsworthy? Is it possible that other people might find some news interesting or useful to them while you may not? If you objectively examine the differences between the Kindle and it's impact on the market and then all other ebook readers do you not see anything that might affect people's interest level in Kindle news versus Sony, Bookeen, etc. etc.?

HarryT · 03-24-2008, 04:58 AM

I think that what Jon is getting at is that an eInk device going out of stock is not "news". Given the shortage of screens from the screen manufacturer, PVI, they all come in and out of stock on a regular basis. The CyBook Gen3, for example, is currently out of stock until May.

JSWolf · 03-24-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I think that what Jon is getting at is that an eInk device going out of stock is not "news". Given the shortage of screens from the screen manufacturer, PVI, they all come in and out of stock on a regular basis. The CyBook Gen3, for example, is currently out of stock until May.

Yes exactly. Sony, iRex, Hanlain, Bookeen, Kindle have all had periods of out-of-stock. What makes the Kindle so special that it deserves to be so newsworthy vs all the others? Nothing is the answer. Just because the CEO hopes to have stock sometime soon still doesn't make it worthy of all the attention. Now if Amazon has said we have 1000 backorders and we will be getting stock to fill all of them by the end of April, that's fine. But a message from the CEO that really says nothing isn't anything special at all.

HarryT, why not make a frontpage news post to tell everyone of Bookeen's latest notice about their stock of Gen3s.

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03-20-2008, 05:37 PM	#16
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	Which seems to also be getting a tepid reaction.

03-20-2008, 05:54 PM	#18
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	I think Jon merged the two threads.

03-20-2008, 11:22 PM	#19
Ebook lover NUUT, Cybook Device Posts: 49 Karma: 11 Join Date: Aug 2006 Device: O2	This is good news for the eBook market. It looks like there are huge demand for digital eBooks and eBook devices.

03-20-2008, 11:58 PM	#20
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	I would agree. I think we're in a "rising tide lifts all boats" phase of the market.

03-21-2008, 01:59 AM	#24
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	This is bad news If only because I am waiting for Kindle V2. I am not going to jump on the Kindle right now. I know it has some advantages, but I have the PRS-505, and I want Amazon to get desperate enough to smooth out the wrinkles on the Kindle. I personally think the next Kindle will be an offer no one can refuse. As long as they dump the draconian DRM.

03-21-2008, 02:20 AM	#25
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	Interesting point. I wonder what it'll take to make a hardware Kindle 2.0. Will they wait for the next gen screen? How long are they willing to wait? Will they offer more sizes? Touchscreen? Or will if it takes too long for a next gen display, will they revamp Kindle 1.x with a few of the changes we've been clammoring for?

03-24-2008, 02:19 AM	#27
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	... and a coffee grinder/brewer. And a bagel toaster. just sayin'

03-24-2008, 04:58 AM	#29
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I think that what Jon is getting at is that an eInk device going out of stock is not "news". Given the shortage of screens from the screen manufacturer, PVI, they all come in and out of stock on a regular basis. The CyBook Gen3, for example, is currently out of stock until May.

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