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Old 09-20-2014, 03:02 PM   #31
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CTRL. does no error checking...

Given this:
< class="nib">Now is the time blah, blah

CTRL. produced this:
< class="nib">Now is the time blah, blah</ class="nib">

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Old 09-20-2014, 03:22 PM   #32
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Hi,
Again, error checking is needed to load it into the QWebView widget to allow wysiwyg editing. Even preview needs valid code or close to it to show you the page in any sane way.

So there is no way to turn off all fixing while at the same time allowing the user to make changes in BookView. Bad code will simply not load into that Qt widget. Any any changes in BookView needs to be valid as well.

The best we can offer is a checker to alert you to errors you can try to fix yourself, or an auto fix system that loses no text when the user decides not to fix it themselves or can't.

Hope this explains things,

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... but I may give it a shot. The [calibre book] editor looks a lot different...
@JimmyG - If you do, you might want to go to Edit->Preferences->Editor Settings and uncheck Beautify individual files automatically...

And just in case, in E->P->Integration with calibre you might want to turn off Update metadata embedded...

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Went and took another look and saw this "...includes a comprehensive checking tool that can find many of the most common errors in book structure and formatting and even fix some of them automatically."

That bothers me, but I may give it a shot. The editor looks a lot different from the last time I looked at it.
That is because Check Book has an OPTIONAL button (clickable text) to "Try to fix this error automatically".

calibre never changes your book automatically without user input, it always waits for you to tell it to.

Aside from the default enabled option to beautify on open. And default enabled updating the OPF if the book is in (or just opened from?) your calibre library. Both can be turned off, the first one definitely should.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:31 AM   #35
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Just to point this, because I noticed it in the OP remarks more than once.

Code:
<pclass="bot"
should not it be?
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:10 AM   #36
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Just to point this, because I noticed it in the OP remarks more than once.

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should not it be?
Code:
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Yes, of course, and that's the topic of discussion; it seems--SEEMS--that Sigil, for some reason, ate his file for that small error in coding. At least, from that line of bad code to the end of the </body> tag. At least, that's what I think is being discussed here, although Kevin has only been able to reproduce the error by omitting the closing bracket for the opening tag altogether. I'm sure that Kevin will jump in here if I'm mistaken about the gist. ;-)

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Old 09-21-2014, 11:37 AM   #37
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Even with clean source turned off there are times when it will still be run. There are many different places that the source needs to be parsed and then written back own. Without knowing exactly what operations are being performed it's not really possible to know why the markup is missing.
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Does Tidy come into play, even tho I have it turned off?

Your example does not show the problem I have found. Every file I have ever lost, in 7.4 and 7.7 does the same thing. From some apparently arbitrary point (perhaps a mistake?) in the file, it removes everything from that point up to </body> and rewrites the ending to </body></html> without the line break.
The only places in the code where a closing body and closing html tag are appended without a newline in betwwen that I could actually find via a code search (and I easily may have missed some) is in the code that handles splitting of code into two different html files. Were you by any chance using that split feature?

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Old 09-21-2014, 12:38 PM   #39
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Just to point this, because I noticed it in the OP remarks more than once.

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should not it be?
Code:
<p class="bot"
Yes, that was an intentional error illustrating a point.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:48 PM   #40
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The only places in the code where a closing body and closing html tag are appended without a newline in betwwen that I could actually find via a code search (and I easily may have missed some) is in the code that handles splitting of code into two different html files. Were you by any chance using that split feature?

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Nope.

So far I haven't had any more problems. I no longer use book view, using preview instead. Add new file, link style sheet, complete file, make sure it's error free, save. So far, so good.
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That is because Check Book has an OPTIONAL button (clickable text) to "Try to fix this error automatically".

calibre never changes your book automatically without user input, it always waits for you to tell it to.

Aside from the default enabled option to beautify on open. And default enabled updating the OPF if the book is in (or just opened from?) your calibre library. Both can be turned off, the first one definitely should.
Okay, I gave it a shot. Downloaded it, copied the book I'm working on in Sigil over to it, and opened it for editing. Added two new files, okey and dokey. Linked the style sheet, oops, wrong. the url it used for the style sheet was "../OEBPS/Styles/Style0001.css" which the validator rightly said "refers to a resource that doesn't exist." Should be "../Styles/Style0001.css" or "../../OEBPS/Styles/Style0001.css" When I created the new files, I entered "Text/okey.xhtml" and "Text/dokey.xhtml". Blooy. It entered the file in content.opf as okey.xhtml and dokey.xhtml, but saved the files as okey.html and dokey.html. Forget about validation. I quit.

And a couple of nits. I'm old and my eyesight ain't that great. Black text on a blue background with no syntax highlighting, too difficult for me. Can you do search and replace in selection? No. You have to first select it, mark it, then search and replace in marked text. The only way to get rid of marked text is to mark something else. And, it doesn't have clips, which I use a lot.

I said I'd give it a shot, and I did, but no sale.
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Even with clean source turned off there are times when it will still be run. There are many different places that the source needs to be parsed and then written back own. Without knowing exactly what operations are being performed it's not really possible to know why the markup is missing.
I know, but I've never had it happen right in front of me. I'm pretty sure it happened once during a save, but when I tried on the test file, nada.
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@JimmyG - If you do, you might want to go to Edit->Preferences->Editor Settings and uncheck Beautify individual files automatically...

And just in case, in E->P->Integration with calibre you might want to turn off Update metadata embedded...

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Yes, indeedy.
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Okay, I gave it a shot. Downloaded it, copied the book I'm working on in Sigil over to it, and opened it for editing. Added two new files, okey and dokey. Linked the style sheet, oops, wrong. the url it used for the style sheet was "../OEBPS/Styles/Style0001.css" which the validator rightly said "refers to a resource that doesn't exist." Should be "../Styles/Style0001.css" or "../../OEBPS/Styles/Style0001.css" When I created the new files, I entered "Text/okey.xhtml" and "Text/dokey.xhtml". Blooy. It entered the file in content.opf as okey.xhtml and dokey.xhtml, but saved the files as okey.html and dokey.html. Forget about validation. I quit.
That doesn't sound even remotely right. I certainly have never had this problem, and would love to hear how you got it.

It would imply that the fundamental feature of the editor is so broken as to make the entire editor completely and utterly worthless. Can't imagine how that would've slipped by all our notices.

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My background is white, I think that is the default. In any event, you could go to Preferences ==> Editor settings and choose several different color schemes, or even write your own.

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Can you do search and replace in selection? No. You have to first select it, mark it, then search and replace in marked text. The only way to get rid of marked text is to mark something else.
I cannot say I use marked text a lot at all, but looking in Sigil, I see marking text will automatically switch the S&R mode to "Marked text". And calibre does the same.

You do not need to mark more text, in order to remove the old mark. Simply select nothing and re-mark it. It will unmark the text currently marked. That I think is a bug:

Sigil automatically senses when text has been marked and no other text has been highlighted, and changes the label to "Unmark Marked Text". calibre should also have an indicator that it is doing that. In the meantime, you could just pretend that is what the words say, and do it anyway.

EDIT: This has been fixed.

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And, it doesn't have clips, which I use a lot.

I said I'd give it a shot, and I did, but no sale.
Fair enough. Clips are indeed something calibre noticeably still lacks. There are third-party paste managers that could duplicate the effects if you really want to use calibre but also need clips.

But if Sigil works for you and you need clips then by all means stick with Sigil.

It is your choice, and both are valid choices. Just don't say:
calibre is doing something it isn't in fact doing
or isn't doing something that it is in fact doing.
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The editor now dynamically changes its text in the context menu. https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...c31a902cf75c8c

Tested while running from source, this will be in the next calibre release.
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