Cybook sometimes unresponsive to turning pages - is that normal?

Krystian Galaj · 11-23-2007, 07:56 AM

My nearly first time posting, but didn't want to waste a topic in Introductions forum, so hi

I read a book on Cybook. No light on the unit is lit. I press left(or right) on the multi-function button to turn the page. The light lights up - in green. I wait 5 seconds. The light goes off. No page is turned.

This scenario happens often enough for me to wonder - is this a bug with Cybook in general? With my unit only? I sometimes have to press the button two or three times for it to turn the page. I can't say I didn't press it hard enough, because the unit did react. It just did not turn the page.

The same thing happens when I read manga and press the same buttons to go to next/previous page.

This can have an impact on the speed of page turning mentioned in the other topis, as 1.5s + 5s + 5s and 3 button presses is not just 1.5s. Personally I find it very annoying.

I can hypothesize that the unit is sleeping, and I press the button for long enough for it to recognize that it needs to wake up, but I let go before it's awake, so it doesn't have any idea what woke it and goes back to sleep. But if that's the case, the fact is that the button should be pressed twice (second time when the light's on already), or pressed long enough for the unit to register what it should be doing. I read on Cybook for 3 weeks, but I haven't mastered that technique yet.

What are your experiences?

tribble · 11-23-2007, 08:10 AM

I have noticed this behavior on my CyBook, but only very seldom so far.

tompe · 11-23-2007, 09:03 AM

I cannot for sure say it have happened. If it has happened it is just once or twice in a couple of weeks.

HarryT · 11-23-2007, 09:35 AM

It does seem to very occasionally miss page-turn clicks, yes, I've found the same. Doesn't happen often enough for it to be a problem.

delphidb96 · 11-23-2007, 10:06 AM

Yep. This has been happening to me, on widely-spaced occasions, since I first got my engineering sample way back when... As this has happened in firmware versions 0.91 - 1.0, I figure it's because I didn't press just right on the button - although I must say that this also happens on those times when I've pressed the navigation buttons too rapidly. As nothing else happens, such as the ebook shutting down or the Cybook powering off, etc., I ignore the occasional page-turn bobble. Also, I've managed to get similar results on my older Sony PRS-500.

Derek

Barcey · 11-24-2007, 03:33 PM

I guess I've been lucky this hasn't happened to me yet but I've almost exclusively been reading mobi format books. Is it possible that it's a problem that only shows up in PDF or have you seen it when reading all formats?

I know when I read PDF on my computer I sometimes have to hit PgDn twice and I'm wondering if it's something similar.

HarryT · 11-24-2007, 03:58 PM

I'm reading Mobi. It's probably no more than not pressing the page turn button firmly enough.

tobyb · 11-24-2007, 04:38 PM

i've also experienced the Cybook failing to turn pages. doesn't happen very often, and I'm never quite sure if it's just that i needed to press the button more firmly. Certainly the directional buttons could be easier to press. Not annoying enough yet to complain, probably happens once every 100 page turns?

Krystian Galaj · 11-24-2007, 06:30 PM

It happens to me every 2-3 page turns. I use pen for pressing the button now, since it's hard on my fingernails to press as hard as I do to turn the pages.

I guess the buttons aren't designed well enough to make sure they can be pressed with the same force on every device.

azog · 11-24-2007, 10:15 PM

I've had the same thing, but I've always chalked it up to not pressing the button firmly enough. It's a very stiff button to begin with.

kleykenb · 12-04-2007, 05:10 PM

Possibly related : when I use Right to turn pages the page turn seems to happen quite a bit faster than when I press Down.
And yes, I often do find that page turns don't occure when I press Down the first time but I do not think it's because of how firm I push the button, often I notice that the green led lights up and the page turn does not happen.

Barcey · 12-04-2007, 06:24 PM

If you're pressing the down button to turn the page that might explain it. The down button moves to the next link on the page but if it doesn't find one it will turn the page. It might be finding a link?

kleykenb · 12-11-2007, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcey

If you're pressing the down button to turn the page that might explain it. The down button moves to the next link on the page but if it doesn't find one it will turn the page. It might be finding a link?

I almost exclusively read PDFs on my Cybook so I do not think links have something to do with this behavior.
Anyway, I hope there will soon be a next firmware to fix some of the rough edges that still exist

Scheinwelt · 12-29-2007, 11:52 AM

Hello,

just found this forum, when researching the same behaviour on my new Cybook.

I have the same behaviour on my system: press flip keys only short, green light goes on for 1s, goes off again - no page flip.

I agree to the first post, that this might be a problem in the wakeup and detect key process of the Cybook.

When I press the key, hold it until the green light goes on and then release, I never experienced this problem.

Further: it happened with .prc, .txt, .pdf, .htm files and also in the library screen itself, so I'm sure this is some OS problem, not the reader software.

Schlumpf · 01-01-2008, 06:23 AM

Happens to me every 2-3 turnings. (because i often push the button very very carefully)

You can go around it when you press the button a little bit longer - its not really a problem, but its a little bit aggravating. I hope they fix it in the next firmware-release...

11-23-2007, 07:56 AM	#1
Krystian Galaj Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 11012 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: Bookeen Cybook	Cybook sometimes unresponsive to turning pages - is that normal? My nearly first time posting, but didn't want to waste a topic in Introductions forum, so hi I read a book on Cybook. No light on the unit is lit. I press left(or right) on the multi-function button to turn the page. The light lights up - in green. I wait 5 seconds. The light goes off. No page is turned. This scenario happens often enough for me to wonder - is this a bug with Cybook in general? With my unit only? I sometimes have to press the button two or three times for it to turn the page. I can't say I didn't press it hard enough, because the unit did react. It just did not turn the page. The same thing happens when I read manga and press the same buttons to go to next/previous page. This can have an impact on the speed of page turning mentioned in the other topis, as 1.5s + 5s + 5s and 3 button presses is not just 1.5s. Personally I find it very annoying. I can hypothesize that the unit is sleeping, and I press the button for long enough for it to recognize that it needs to wake up, but I let go before it's awake, so it doesn't have any idea what woke it and goes back to sleep. But if that's the case, the fact is that the button should be pressed twice (second time when the light's on already), or pressed long enough for the unit to register what it should be doing. I read on Cybook for 3 weeks, but I haven't mastered that technique yet. What are your experiences?

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11-23-2007, 08:10 AM	#2
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	I have noticed this behavior on my CyBook, but only very seldom so far.

11-23-2007, 09:03 AM	#3
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	I cannot for sure say it have happened. If it has happened it is just once or twice in a couple of weeks.

11-23-2007, 09:35 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It does seem to very occasionally miss page-turn clicks, yes, I've found the same. Doesn't happen often enough for it to be a problem.

11-23-2007, 10:06 AM	#5
delphidb96 Wizard Posts: 2,999 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Citrus Heights, California Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V	Yep. This has been happening to me, on widely-spaced occasions, since I first got my engineering sample way back when... As this has happened in firmware versions 0.91 - 1.0, I figure it's because I didn't press just right on the button - although I must say that this also happens on those times when I've pressed the navigation buttons too rapidly. As nothing else happens, such as the ebook shutting down or the Cybook powering off, etc., I ignore the occasional page-turn bobble. Also, I've managed to get similar results on my older Sony PRS-500. Derek

11-24-2007, 03:33 PM	#6
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3	I guess I've been lucky this hasn't happened to me yet but I've almost exclusively been reading mobi format books. Is it possible that it's a problem that only shows up in PDF or have you seen it when reading all formats? I know when I read PDF on my computer I sometimes have to hit PgDn twice and I'm wondering if it's something similar.

11-24-2007, 03:58 PM	#7
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I'm reading Mobi. It's probably no more than not pressing the page turn button firmly enough.

11-24-2007, 04:38 PM	#8
tobyb Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London UK Device: Cybook Gen3	i've also experienced the Cybook failing to turn pages. doesn't happen very often, and I'm never quite sure if it's just that i needed to press the button more firmly. Certainly the directional buttons could be easier to press. Not annoying enough yet to complain, probably happens once every 100 page turns?

11-24-2007, 06:30 PM	#9
Krystian Galaj Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 11012 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: Bookeen Cybook	It happens to me every 2-3 page turns. I use pen for pressing the button now, since it's hard on my fingernails to press as hard as I do to turn the pages. I guess the buttons aren't designed well enough to make sure they can be pressed with the same force on every device.

11-24-2007, 10:15 PM	#10
azog Enthusiast Posts: 49 Karma: 33 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Cybook Gen3, Kindle	I've had the same thing, but I've always chalked it up to not pressing the button firmly enough. It's a very stiff button to begin with.

12-04-2007, 05:10 PM	#11
kleykenb Groupie Posts: 156 Karma: 99 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: DR1kS/Cy3	Possibly related : when I use Right to turn pages the page turn seems to happen quite a bit faster than when I press Down. And yes, I often do find that page turns don't occure when I press Down the first time but I do not think it's because of how firm I push the button, often I notice that the green led lights up and the page turn does not happen.

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12-04-2007, 06:24 PM	#12
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3	If you're pressing the down button to turn the page that might explain it. The down button moves to the next link on the page but if it doesn't find one it will turn the page. It might be finding a link?

12-29-2007, 11:52 AM	#14
Scheinwelt Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Cybook Gen3/Palm T5	Hello, just found this forum, when researching the same behaviour on my new Cybook. I have the same behaviour on my system: press flip keys only short, green light goes on for 1s, goes off again - no page flip. I agree to the first post, that this might be a problem in the wakeup and detect key process of the Cybook. When I press the key, hold it until the green light goes on and then release, I never experienced this problem. Further: it happened with .prc, .txt, .pdf, .htm files and also in the library screen itself, so I'm sure this is some OS problem, not the reader software.

01-01-2008, 06:23 AM	#15
Schlumpf Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: XDA Neo	Happens to me every 2-3 turnings. (because i often push the button very very carefully) You can go around it when you press the button a little bit longer - its not really a problem, but its a little bit aggravating. I hope they fix it in the next firmware-release...