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Maybe this is really obvious, but can someone please tell me why the author's are all fearing their book rights being tied up in the courts for years. Surely either
a) You are owed money from your contract that hasn't been paid, therefore the terms of the contract have been broken so the rights revert to the author straight away. b) You're not owed money but your books are out of print due to the company going bust. As the books are out of print the rights revert to the author after the time specified in the contract (normally a couple of months). |
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I wonder why Amazon and their 47North publishing division didn't come in and buy Night Shade.
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The company has to come out of bankruptcy before the authors can get anything, because until then, the courts control them. |
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They have already bought at least one bankrupt publisher's catalog, too. Skyhorse's bid apparently only works with the nastier contracts so maybe an amazon bid wouldn't be high enough to avoid liquidation. In which case they might try later, during the bankruptcy sale of assets. |
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I'm guessing that some of the authors need the money they are owed badly enough to consider a worse deal for part of it.
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The right to publish is an asset worth money. Sometimes, the only asset a bankrupt publisher has. Those assets are divided among creditors. The creditors usually include the authors--but they're probably owed a lot less than other companies, like the printer and distributor. There is no nice simple legal precedent of "you owe the authors money; you have their rights to publish; how about we swap those." Quote:
Reversion of rights depends on the specific contract.There are no industry standards. The contract they're being offered is at Scribd. |
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A little more from io9. Night Shade Books' would-be owners on their controversial deal: "We're the good guys".
10% of "net" using "Hollywood" or "Nashville" accounting will leave the authors owing money to the publisher. Quote:
p.s. I like the comment by Sharon Lee. Last edited by gbm; 04-06-2013 at 12:15 PM. |
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When Amazon bought the Dorchester Publishing books, they gave the authors a choice of the standard Amazon Publishing contract or getting their rights reverted:
http://paidcontent.org/2012/08/30/am...ct-dorchester/ |
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Those evil bastards.
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Some comments from the Foglios who note that they can't even write any sequels during any bankruptcy proceedings.
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Skyhorse has been listening to comments and has altered what they're offering...
http://io9.com/a-better-deal-for-nig...hors-471411560 |
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Now if that was 25% of retail for ebooks then it would be better. bernie |
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