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The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne 4 5.06%
The Iliad by Homer 7 8.86%
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens 13 16.46%
The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd by Agatha Christie 9 11.39%
The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton 2 2.53%
Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence 2 2.53%
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov 12 15.19%
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad 10 12.66%
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller 11 13.92%
To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf 9 11.39%
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:11 PM   #31
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Yes, I like your suggestions, but without the fourth option if the poll will be binding. I'd hate for anyone to lose their vote since "other" wouldn't really be a winnable category.

And though it's a bit of "did the chicken or egg come first?", I'd suggest a hidden vote for this poll so that people vote their heart without regard to poll results so far. Perhaps also keep it open for a good while - at least two weeks or more - to give all our various members a chance to see it and vote.
I understand what you mean.

I put the "Other" in there becuase I know, there are 3 categories that I would love to have a blind vote all the time, if possible:

January: Wild Card, April: Humor & August: Free For All (any genre).

Where as March: Nonfiction makes more sense as a viewable genre, to me.

There might be other people who have similar ideas, so giving them that option allows us to discuss it, at least.

Of course, it could just be me, in which case the other 3 options are fine.

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Old 11-21-2011, 05:12 PM   #32
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It sounds good, though I do like the suggestion of alternating months between hidden and open polling. Then every other month we could see the votes as they're coming in.

But for the hidden polls, yes I positively prefer the thread being open to people posting whatever they like about their personal preferences.
The results are in. They've been in since the end of the poll.

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Old 11-21-2011, 05:15 PM   #33
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Not necessarily. Because if the vote were public, you may not have been the only one to cast a different vote. A book not in the top two from the hidden vote may have won, or the one that won by tie-breaker with the hidden vote may have won outright by a larger margin.
Very true. Others may very well have cast different votes and thus Nyssa's vote for #2 would have more no difference.
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I understand what you mean.

I put the "Other" in there becuase I know, there are 3 categories that I would love to have a blind vote all the time, if possible:

January: Wild Card, April: Humor & August: Free For All (any genre).

Where as March: Nonfiction makes more sense as a viewable genre, to me.

There might be other people who have similar ideas, so giving them that option allows us to discuss it, at least.

Of course, it could just be me, in which case the other 3 options are fine.
Ah. Well, we could make the third option something more general like "a combination of open and hidden voting". Then, if it wins, we could discuss what combination is most wanted. The pure alternating suggestion was only to be simple if we're using both kinds of polls.

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Hidden polls are the only truly fair type of polls we can have here. We've already had people saying they let their votes be swayed by the current results. So that basically means the winning book is not the book most people really wanted.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:37 PM   #36
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Ah. Well, we could make the third option something more general like "a combination of open and hidden voting". Then, if it wins, we could discuss what combination is most wanted. The pure alternating suggestion was only to be simple if we're using both kinds of polls.
It might not be necessary. I actually really like the toggling idea. The example I gave was my "I think it would be cool if..." scenario. "Other" opens up the discussions to what our members would like to see.
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Yes, I like your suggestions, but without the fourth option if the poll will be binding. I'd hate for anyone to lose their vote since "other" wouldn't really be a winnable category.

And though it's a bit of "did the chicken or egg come first?", I'd suggest a hidden vote for this poll so that people vote their heart without regard to poll results so far. Perhaps also keep it open for a good while - at least two weeks or more - to give all our various members a chance to see it and vote.
Two weeks sounds good.

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Tom (or dreams, or any moderator who kept track), I'm curious as to the day-by-day results on a hidden poll. Did you keep track last month? If so, did the books that ended up with the most votes at the end always have the most votes? Or do you think the voting seemed to go back and forth more? Did you notice more later votes cast for books not in the lead than in open polling months?

Perhaps one of you who can view results could manually keep a tally of the day-by-day results for this month and post them once the poll is over, so we can see how things progressed. I know it'd be a bit of work for one of you to do it, but it'd be very informative for us.
The results were pretty steady as I recall. Two of the books stayed pretty much tied for the lead.
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I'm going to take the suggestions we've had and start a poll. I'll be back.
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I wonder if Alex could fix it so that the poll and the thread go up at the same time. It takes time to create a poll and double-check to make sure there are no errors, but the way the software is set up, you have to submit the thread first, then create the poll, and every time—at least it seems like every time—before you've had time to create the poll, somebody inevitably posts and asks, "Where's the POLL?" Patience, Grasshopper! There's no way to create the poll until after the thread is created and posted.

And now I'm off to Front Page it.
What? That must only be for the moderators. I can't add a poll after I post only before. And why are the votes hidden even after you have voted?
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I'm going to take the suggestions we've had and start a poll. I'll be back.
Great! Now let's talk about the nominees.
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And why are the votes hidden even after you have voted?
Probably to prevent those who have voted from telling the results to those who have not.
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Right, I guess that makes sense.
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The vote thread on whether we wish to continue with hidden polling or go back to the way things were has been posted as a (temporary) sticky.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=158027

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What? That must only be for the moderators. I can't add a poll after I post only before. And why are the votes hidden even after you have voted?
Yes, it's the hidden vote option. At the end of the polling period, you will be able to see who voted for what, but not before.
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If we were to go back, we'd be doing the book club a major disservice and getting winners that really are not what the majority wants.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:32 PM   #45
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I'm with Jon on this. I like the hidden vote.
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