Titles purchased at closed book stores

arshield · 11-01-2008, 12:33 PM

My reading so far says that Igor's script won't do anything to unlock a title that I purchased from a closed book store. (Because I can't download a new version with the proper PID). Am I missing anything. I have a handful of titles from Paperbackdigital and they are closed and I can't read any of them anymore.

simond · 11-01-2008, 02:20 PM

The script works with any PID you give it so there should be no problem there.

JSWolf · 11-01-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by simond

The script works with any PID you give it so there should be no problem there.

There is a problem. The PID does not match the Kidnle's PID so the books won't work witht he Kindle. The only way to get them to work is to remove the DRM.

pilotbob · 11-01-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by simond

The script works with any PID you give it so there should be no problem there.

Not if you are talking about Kindlefix... it needs to be used on an eBook that was purchased/borrowed using the Kindles PID that you get from kindlepid script.

BOb

wallcraft · 11-01-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by arshield

I have a handful of titles from Paperbackdigital and they are closed and I can't read any of them anymore.

Do you know any of the PID's that the MOBI files are authorized for? If so, then mobidedrm can create a DRM-free version. If not, then your only recourse may be to see if the distributor (MobiPocket) can add new PIDs for you. MobiPocket seems willing to help, but they need info from Paperbackdigital that they have been unable to obtain, see paperback digital bookshop closed down.

arshield · 11-02-2008, 11:43 AM

Ok. I don't have the old PIDs because I never saved them. I tried MobiDeDrm but that requires the old PID's right? So just am screwed this time. I didn't put much money into these books but I don't want to lose more money on new DRMed books. But as I understand it. As long as I save the PID I can strip the DRM and use the books with my Kindle or other future reader. Is that right?

zelda_pinwheel · 11-02-2008, 11:47 AM

if i were you, i would strip the drm from any new book immediately, to avoid this same problem in future. lit format is very easy to liberate ; you can also liberate mobipocket with very little trouble. these formats can also both be converted to other formats easily, and non-drm mobipocket can be read natively on the kindle. it's frustrating to lose your books but hopefully you'll be able to avoid it from now on.

pdurrant · 11-02-2008, 11:52 AM

Without the PIDs used to originally encode the books you're stuck, unless Mobipocket does manage to contact someone from the old book store with the right info. But since there's been no progress since May, that seems increasingly unlikely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arshield

Ok. I don't have the old PIDs because I never saved them. I tried MobiDeDrm but that requires the old PID's right? So just am screwed this time. I didn't put much money into these books but I don't want to lose more money on new DRMed books. But as I understand it. As long as I save the PID I can strip the DRM and use the books with my Kindle or other future reader. Is that right?

JSWolf · 11-02-2008, 11:57 AM

What I would say is give it up. Any book purchased from paperbackdigital that you don't have the PID for is a lost cause.

wallcraft · 11-02-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arshield

I don't have the old PIDs because I never saved them.

If you still have the devices you read the ebooks on the PIDs might be the same (they might also have changed, I think they do when you reinstall the operating system on some handhelds). Also, if you used Windows Desktop MobiPocket Reader its PID (on the original PC) will probably work too. In Windows Desktop MobiPocket Reader look under reading devices. There is usually a menu item for looking up the PID on the handheld as well.

arshield · 11-02-2008, 06:28 PM

I reformated the computer and gave it away to a friend that lives across the country and the phone crashed and I got a new one. Thanks for the help. Just another lesson to prove DRM means you should not buy. Thanks

FizzyWater · 11-02-2008, 10:07 PM

This is a long-shot, but is there any chance you registered those old PIDs anywhere else? I have Mobipocket PIDs registered at Fictionwise, BooksonBoard, the CLEVNET library system, and Columbus's library system. I don't always remember to update all those places with new PIDs when I get new toys. Is it possible you might have registered long ago at another site you maybe haven't visited in a while that would still have the old information saved?

JSWolf · 11-02-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arshield

I reformated the computer and gave it away to a friend that lives across the country and the phone crashed and I got a new one. Thanks for the help. Just another lesson to prove DRM means you should not buy. Thanks

What it means is don't buy with DRM you cannot crack & then convert if need be.

arshield · 11-03-2008, 07:06 AM

I found two PID in other stores, but neither was the right ones. My problem is that I had 13 Dell PDAs over the years, 4 Windows Mobile phones and three computer since I bought my first ebook. So I am officially giving up.

11-01-2008, 12:33 PM	#1
arshield Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Kindle	Titles purchased at closed book stores My reading so far says that Igor's script won't do anything to unlock a title that I purchased from a closed book store. (Because I can't download a new version with the proper PID). Am I missing anything. I have a handful of titles from Paperbackdigital and they are closed and I can't read any of them anymore.

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11-01-2008, 02:20 PM	#2
simond Fanatic Posts: 532 Karma: 1062755 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Device: Kobo Aura One, iPad, iPhone	The script works with any PID you give it so there should be no problem there.

11-02-2008, 11:43 AM	#6
arshield Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Kindle	Ok. I don't have the old PIDs because I never saved them. I tried MobiDeDrm but that requires the old PID's right? So just am screwed this time. I didn't put much money into these books but I don't want to lose more money on new DRMed books. But as I understand it. As long as I save the PID I can strip the DRM and use the books with my Kindle or other future reader. Is that right?

11-02-2008, 11:47 AM	#7
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	if i were you, i would strip the drm from any new book immediately, to avoid this same problem in future. lit format is very easy to liberate ; you can also liberate mobipocket with very little trouble. these formats can also both be converted to other formats easily, and non-drm mobipocket can be read natively on the kindle. it's frustrating to lose your books but hopefully you'll be able to avoid it from now on.

11-02-2008, 11:57 AM	#9
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,835 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What I would say is give it up. Any book purchased from paperbackdigital that you don't have the PID for is a lost cause.

11-02-2008, 06:28 PM	#11
arshield Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Kindle	I reformated the computer and gave it away to a friend that lives across the country and the phone crashed and I got a new one. Thanks for the help. Just another lesson to prove DRM means you should not buy. Thanks

11-02-2008, 10:07 PM	#12
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	This is a long-shot, but is there any chance you registered those old PIDs anywhere else? I have Mobipocket PIDs registered at Fictionwise, BooksonBoard, the CLEVNET library system, and Columbus's library system. I don't always remember to update all those places with new PIDs when I get new toys. Is it possible you might have registered long ago at another site you maybe haven't visited in a while that would still have the old information saved?

11-03-2008, 07:06 AM	#14
arshield Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 64 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Kindle	I found two PID in other stores, but neither was the right ones. My problem is that I had 13 Dell PDAs over the years, 4 Windows Mobile phones and three computer since I bought my first ebook. So I am officially giving up.