Calibre 1.0?

p3aul · 12-01-2012, 02:26 AM

Calibre is now in version .9.8 What will happen when version 1.0 arrives? Will it cease to be free, available only by subscription or what?
Thanks,
Paul

Adoby · 12-01-2012, 03:21 AM

We will start to impatiently wait for the bugs in multiuser calibre to be fixed in version 1.01.

theducks · 12-01-2012, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3aul

Calibre is now in version .9.8 What will happen when version 1.0 arrives? Will it cease to be free, available only by subscription or what?
Thanks,
Paul

there is no reason it can go to 0.10.1 if Kovid never wants to do a full 'release' version.

'release' implies that the rapid change goes away and the product is now Stale, er' Stable

kiwidude · 12-01-2012, 07:07 AM

Apart from which remember that 0.9.8 is really 0.9.08 as far as the numbering scheme Kovid uses represents. Based on 0.7.x and 0.8.x there could easily be another 40-50 releases (i.e. another year) before Kovid feels the desire to make it a 1.0 officially. I would suspect he has certain items on his todo list (such as the refactored database backend) that he wants done before he considers it 1.0.

This is not aimed at calibre/Sigil BTW but personally I've never really agreed with projects using 0.x numbering schemes which are actively being developed over many years. It puts some users off installing them (because they would rather wait for the 1.0 version). If you were googling for a tool to do something, and saw one at version 0.5 and another at version 1.2 which would you start with?

For that reason my plugins all start at 1.0 - the only time I make an exception to this is a genuine alpha release that I put in the development forum. However that is just my opinion, and equally every developer running their project can decide how they like to use their numbering schemes. I know user_none has stated certain features he wants to see in Sigil before it gets called "1.0" and I'm guessing Kovid feels similar.

Both are open source and both aren't going away any time soon so just don't worry about it...

kovidgoyal · 12-01-2012, 07:14 AM

Actually, I dont care about particular features in 1.0. As far as I am concerned calibre will hit 1.0 when I feel like enough features have accumulated since 0.9.0 to justify a major version bump. Feature and stability wise, calibre could have been called 1.0 years ago.

I could just as well go to 0.10, but the advantage with 1.0 is at least there will be no more questions about when calibre will reach 1.0

My development style is not really roadmap driven. I just work on stuff when the urge moves me. When enough stuff accumulates, the major version number ticks over.

p3aul · 12-01-2012, 01:24 PM

Well When I first found Calibre back in its .6 days I thought it was Awsome and wondered why it was a pre-release version. Of course I didn't and don't ask for much, My main concern is with converting files to epub and I get frustrated when Calibre or Sigil doesn't pick up my Chapter headings as a TOC

echwel · 12-03-2012, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Actually, I dont care about particular features in 1.0. As far as I am concerned calibre will hit 1.0 when I feel like enough features have accumulated since 0.9.0 to justify a major version bump. Feature and stability wise, calibre could have been called 1.0 years ago.

I could just as well go to 0.10, but the advantage with 1.0 is at least there will be no more questions about when calibre will reach 1.0

My development style is not really roadmap driven. I just work on stuff when the urge moves me. When enough stuff accumulates, the major version number ticks over.

Maybe you should think of leaving the '0' alltogether, that way you're on version 9.8 now

DrChiper · 12-03-2012, 06:51 AM

I personally hardly look at any revision number other than to fetch the latest version and to see the according revision notes. The important thing is how "active" the application and its community is. In that respect calibre scores high notes in my book. Just my 2cts.

Matth79 · 12-05-2012, 07:13 PM

Since the goalposts keep moving, maybe there is no such thing as "final" ... new devices, new firmware, new quirks.

BeeTee-Ess · 12-07-2012, 12:24 AM

I have always (until Calibre) associated 0.x version numbers with alpha/beta releases.

At first, I assumed this convention to be true of Calibre also. I was not using it for long before I realised it was not.

Clearly this is a stable, generously provisioned product that has been at a production standard for years.

Thanks Kovid. Any version number you choose is fine.

jeffkey1 · 12-07-2012, 04:29 AM

Perhaps when we reach 1.0 we can all make a (another) donation to Kovid to support the run up to version 2.0 :-)

MartyTX · 12-14-2012, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

I could just as well go to 0.10, but the advantage with 1.0 is at least there will be no more questions about when calibre will reach 1.0

And the answer is: 0.9.10

DoctorOhh · 12-14-2012, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartyTX

And the answer is: 0.9.10

This was never a question in this thread. Every version of calibre has followed the same path.

0.5.9 -> 0.5.10
0.6.9 -> 0.6.10
0.7.9 -> 0.7.10
0.8.9 -> 0.8.10
0.9.9 -> 0.9.10

The question was when the time comes will calibre advance from 0.9 to 1.0 or to 0.10 or something altogether different.

12-01-2012, 02:26 AM	#1
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Adoby Handy Elephant Posts: 1,736 Karma: 26785668 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Southern Sweden, far out in the quiet woods Device: Thinkpad E595, Ubuntu Mate, Huawei Mediapad 5, Bouye Likebook Plus	We will start to impatiently wait for the bugs in multiuser calibre to be fixed in version 1.01.

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kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	Apart from which remember that 0.9.8 is really 0.9.08 as far as the numbering scheme Kovid uses represents. Based on 0.7.x and 0.8.x there could easily be another 40-50 releases (i.e. another year) before Kovid feels the desire to make it a 1.0 officially. I would suspect he has certain items on his todo list (such as the refactored database backend) that he wants done before he considers it 1.0. This is not aimed at calibre/Sigil BTW but personally I've never really agreed with projects using 0.x numbering schemes which are actively being developed over many years. It puts some users off installing them (because they would rather wait for the 1.0 version). If you were googling for a tool to do something, and saw one at version 0.5 and another at version 1.2 which would you start with? For that reason my plugins all start at 1.0 - the only time I make an exception to this is a genuine alpha release that I put in the development forum. However that is just my opinion, and equally every developer running their project can decide how they like to use their numbering schemes. I know user_none has stated certain features he wants to see in Sigil before it gets called "1.0" and I'm guessing Kovid feels similar. Both are open source and both aren't going away any time soon so just don't worry about it...

12-01-2012, 07:14 AM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,852 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Actually, I dont care about particular features in 1.0. As far as I am concerned calibre will hit 1.0 when I feel like enough features have accumulated since 0.9.0 to justify a major version bump. Feature and stability wise, calibre could have been called 1.0 years ago. I could just as well go to 0.10, but the advantage with 1.0 is at least there will be no more questions about when calibre will reach 1.0 My development style is not really roadmap driven. I just work on stuff when the urge moves me. When enough stuff accumulates, the major version number ticks over.

12-01-2012, 01:24 PM	#6
p3aul Captain Courageous Posts: 239 Karma: 102 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: calibre, PRS 505	Well When I first found Calibre back in its .6 days I thought it was Awsome and wondered why it was a pre-release version. Of course I didn't and don't ask for much, My main concern is with converting files to epub and I get frustrated when Calibre or Sigil doesn't pick up my Chapter headings as a TOC

12-03-2012, 06:51 AM	#8
DrChiper Bookish Posts: 907 Karma: 1803094 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: PC, t1, t2, t3, aura 2 v1, clara HD, Libra 2, Nxtpaper 11	I personally hardly look at any revision number other than to fetch the latest version and to see the according revision notes. The important thing is how "active" the application and its community is. In that respect calibre scores high notes in my book. Just my 2cts.

12-05-2012, 07:13 PM	#9
Matth79 Zealot Posts: 122 Karma: 502620 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kobo Touch	Since the goalposts keep moving, maybe there is no such thing as "final" ... new devices, new firmware, new quirks.

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BeeTee-Ess Addict Posts: 306 Karma: 679580 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Device: K3, K4NT, KPW2, Voyage, iP4, iP6, iPad Mini, HP TouchPad, Kobo Mini	I have always (until Calibre) associated 0.x version numbers with alpha/beta releases. At first, I assumed this convention to be true of Calibre also. I was not using it for long before I realised it was not. Clearly this is a stable, generously provisioned product that has been at a production standard for years. Thanks Kovid. Any version number you choose is fine.

12-07-2012, 04:29 AM	#11
jeffkey1 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle Keyboard, Kindle 4	Perhaps when we reach 1.0 we can all make a (another) donation to Kovid to support the run up to version 2.0 :-)