CLEVNET ebook library designed appears to be optimized for tablets

FizzyWater · 12-01-2012, 04:50 AM

I've just spent a very frustrating quarter hour so far trying to figure out and move around the newly redesigned CLEVNET library site.

In some ways, it reminds of the internet 10 years ago, when screens were optimized for 800x600 screen resolutions.

All the pictures are larger and they've removed a lot of the text in the main pages - you have to go to each individual book to see most of the details that used to be visible (and I'm speaking about the Holds and Wish List pages in specific).

I have to hope the reason the site is loading so frickin' slow is because it's still being rolled out. Because I swear if it stays as slow, it will probably be crossed off my places to visit daily list! It's utterly horrid.

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like there's no more "cart" either. You can't build up a list of books to borrow, then "check out". You click "borrow" and you get it now.

I am very disappointed in the changes...I feel they're a definite step back in usability for average computer users. Maybe if I was the least bit interested in getting a tablet, I'd be less critical, but a tablet is just about the last thing on my wish list right now, so I'm just feeling annoyed.

EDIT: Oh, I just tried using the Advanced Search option. You can no longer choose a particular ebook format to search by. I know there are books at this library only epub, or only Kindle/PDF, or all but with some without DRM (open epub). So you won't know until you're on the slow-loading (it's averaging almost 2 minutes per page) page for the book whether it's even something you are able to borrow. I am sooooo frustrated.

glendalekid · 12-05-2012, 08:40 PM

Looks as if the Brooklyn Library has gone the same way. It wasn't that way this a.m., but sure is now.
http://digitalbooks.brooklynpublicli...rchid=6128874s

Most annoying is that now each book has to be clicked on before you can see if it's available or access a synopsis. It's really awful; isn't it?

Think it might be an Overdrive improvement rather than the individual libraries? I hope not.

dandelioncottage · 12-05-2012, 09:13 PM

This is terrible!

I hope other Overdrive libraries don't do the same thing. I like to search for newly-added material, not try to think of what I might want to search for. It's also incredibly slow.

SteveEisenberg · 12-05-2012, 09:27 PM

I use the Advanced Search at search.overdrive.com. That did not change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandelioncottage

I like to search for newly-added material, not try to think of what I might want to search for.

Didn't this always require the Advanced Search? In any event, that's what I use.

The individual library Advanced Search windows now look tuned to a lower resolution/smaller screen, but are functionally the same.

P.S. Actually, there was a change in the individual library advanced search. Now you can limit to eBook, but you can't just limit to Kindle or Adobe EPUB. This has, for me, plusses and minuses.

search.overdrive.com, however, is truly unchanged yet.

dandelioncottage · 12-05-2012, 09:48 PM

At each library (I have a lot of library cards!), I just click on all eBooks (slightly different on different sites) and then sort by Date Added to Site. Then I see the list of new books. That's been the fastest and most enjoyable way for me to browse. The Brooklyn site now seems to force me to choose a genre, and then sort by date added.

I'm sure I'll get used to it ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveEisenberg

I use the Advanced Search at search.overdrive.com. That did not change.

Didn't this always require the Advanced Search? In any event, that's what I use.

The individual library Advanced Search windows now look tuned to a lower resolution/smaller screen, but are functionally the same.

P.S. Actually, there was a change in the individual library advanced search. Now you can limit to eBook, but you can't just limit to Kindle or Adobe EPUB. This has, for me, plusses and minuses.

search.overdrive.com, however, is truly unchanged yet.

SteveEisenberg · 12-05-2012, 09:56 PM

Checking for new Overdrive nonfiction, I just came across what has to be one of the most absurd titles of all times:

1066 in an Hour

Katel · 12-06-2012, 12:04 AM

I can't believe what they've done at the Brooklyn Library. It's so cumbersome now. Haven't they heard if it ain't broke don't fix it?

FizzyWater · 12-06-2012, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glendalekid

Most annoying is that now each book has to be clicked on before you can see if it's available or access a synopsis. It's really awful; isn't it?

If you look in the upper right-hand corner of each book cover, there's an overly icon of an open book. If it's dark gray, it's available. If it's light gray, it's borrowed.

You can also click the ribbon (bookmark?) to immediately put the book on your wish list.

I still hate it and want the old style back.

tubemonkey · 12-06-2012, 02:00 AM

I like the makeover. Looks pretty cool. If my libraries did it, I wouldn't care one way or the other.

FizzyWater · 12-06-2012, 03:54 AM

Oh, newly discovered hassle. I like to load up my Wish List, since at any given time, only about 2% of the books are available. I used to search for "Add to Cart" to find the ones that were available that day.

Now, it's a graphic, not words - no way to search for available titles only (or to filter them to display together). And...it's only showing about 20 books at a time. The older books are still there, but there's no frickin' way to LOOK at the list.

xendula · 12-06-2012, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandelioncottage

At each library (I have a lot of library cards!), I just click on all eBooks (slightly different on different sites) and then sort by Date Added to Site. Then I see the list of new books. That's been the fastest and most enjoyable way for me to browse. The Brooklyn site now seems to force me to choose a genre, and then sort by date added.

I'm sure I'll get used to it ...

The libraries that I have cards for never showed the "date added" in the correct order, so I always used to click all then search for publication date instead. I wish the new design still showed patrons on waiting list, number of copies owned, available formats and the dates. I also hope that the new design won't remain so slow, though it may, since it uses larger pictures.

xendula · 12-06-2012, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FizzyWater

Oh, newly discovered hassle. I like to load up my Wish List, since at any given time, only about 2% of the books are available. I used to search for "Add to Cart" to find the ones that were available that day.

Now, it's a graphic, not words - no way to search for available titles only (or to filter them to display together). And...it's only showing about 20 books at a time. The older books are still there, but there's no frickin' way to LOOK at the list.

Once you select a category, you can select all titles, or available now.

xendula · 12-06-2012, 09:22 PM

One more thing that sucks is that it now no long displays the entire title, at least not on the iPad. The stupid flag is in the way.

12-01-2012, 04:50 AM	#1
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	CLEVNET ebook library designed appears to be optimized for tablets I've just spent a very frustrating quarter hour so far trying to figure out and move around the newly redesigned CLEVNET library site. In some ways, it reminds of the internet 10 years ago, when screens were optimized for 800x600 screen resolutions. All the pictures are larger and they've removed a lot of the text in the main pages - you have to go to each individual book to see most of the details that used to be visible (and I'm speaking about the Holds and Wish List pages in specific). I have to hope the reason the site is loading so frickin' slow is because it's still being rolled out. Because I swear if it stays as slow, it will probably be crossed off my places to visit daily list! It's utterly horrid. I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like there's no more "cart" either. You can't build up a list of books to borrow, then "check out". You click "borrow" and you get it now. I am very disappointed in the changes...I feel they're a definite step back in usability for average computer users. Maybe if I was the least bit interested in getting a tablet, I'd be less critical, but a tablet is just about the last thing on my wish list right now, so I'm just feeling annoyed. EDIT: Oh, I just tried using the Advanced Search option. You can no longer choose a particular ebook format to search by. I know there are books at this library only epub, or only Kindle/PDF, or all but with some without DRM (open epub). So you won't know until you're on the slow-loading (it's averaging almost 2 minutes per page) page for the book whether it's even something you are able to borrow. I am sooooo frustrated. Last edited by FizzyWater; 12-01-2012 at 05:10 AM.

12-05-2012, 09:13 PM	#3
dandelioncottage Abibliophobe Posts: 421 Karma: 4333638 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: iPad Mini 2 64 gb, Nook Glowlight, iPad 4 (128 gb)	This is terrible! I hope other Overdrive libraries don't do the same thing. I like to search for newly-added material, not try to think of what I might want to search for. It's also incredibly slow. Last edited by dandelioncottage; 12-05-2012 at 09:24 PM.

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12-05-2012, 08:40 PM	#2
glendalekid Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 490454 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Sony 505	Looks as if the Brooklyn Library has gone the same way. It wasn't that way this a.m., but sure is now. http://digitalbooks.brooklynpublicli...rchid=6128874s Most annoying is that now each book has to be clicked on before you can see if it's available or access a synopsis. It's really awful; isn't it? Think it might be an Overdrive improvement rather than the individual libraries? I hope not.

12-05-2012, 09:56 PM	#6
SteveEisenberg Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,032 Karma: 39379388 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)	Checking for new Overdrive nonfiction, I just came across what has to be one of the most absurd titles of all times: 1066 in an Hour

12-06-2012, 12:04 AM	#7
Katel Evangelist Posts: 402 Karma: 10038776 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NSW Regional Device: Kobo Aura	I can't believe what they've done at the Brooklyn Library. It's so cumbersome now. Haven't they heard if it ain't broke don't fix it?

12-06-2012, 02:00 AM	#9
tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,477 Karma: 158151390 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	I like the makeover. Looks pretty cool. If my libraries did it, I wouldn't care one way or the other.

12-06-2012, 03:54 AM	#10
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	Oh, newly discovered hassle. I like to load up my Wish List, since at any given time, only about 2% of the books are available. I used to search for "Add to Cart" to find the ones that were available that day. Now, it's a graphic, not words - no way to search for available titles only (or to filter them to display together). And...it's only showing about 20 books at a time. The older books are still there, but there's no frickin' way to LOOK at the list.

12-06-2012, 09:22 PM	#13
xendula eBookworm Posts: 2,300 Karma: 4525746 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Coast brrrrr Device: Kindle 4B/K ~ Nexus 7 ~ Kindle Paperwhite 1&2 ~ iPad Air	One more thing that sucks is that it now no long displays the entire title, at least not on the iPad. The stupid flag is in the way.