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Old 12-15-2010, 12:34 PM   #1
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ePub nicht gleich ePub?

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Ich habe einen 301+ Ich hab mir jetzt ein Buch von Libri gekauft und obwohl iPub kann ich das Buch nicht mit dem fbreader öffnen sondern nur mit dem AdobeViewer, außerdem hat das Buch einen großen Rand auch wird sich die Seite nicht gemerkt sowas bin ich von Büchern die ich mir von beam beziehe nicht gewohnt.
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:09 PM   #2
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Ist das wieder ein Cross-Post ?

Den Thread habe ich doch gerade erst woanders bei MR gelesen ??
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Ist das wieder ein Cross-Post ?

Den Thread habe ich doch gerade erst woanders bei MR gelesen ??
Der steht schon so im Pocketbookbereich. Und die Antwort ist dieselbe (das mit dem Auspacken wurde vielleich nicht verstanden), ePubs mit DRM lassen sich nicht mit dem FBreader lesen, außer man entfernt vorher den DRM.
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:07 PM   #4
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Um die Frage globaler zu beantworten: Nein, ePub ist nicht gleich ePub, und das liegt am verwendeten DRM.

Derzeit gibt es quasi vier "ePub-Spezies":

1) Die ohne DRM. Diese laufen auf allen Readern.
2) Die mit ADE Adept-DRM (Adobe Content Server 4). Diese laufen auf allen Readern, die die lizensierte Software von Adobe verwenden.
3) Die mit dem neuen Adept-DRM (derzeit nur die nook-Geräte). Diese lassen sich auch nur auf nook-Geräten öffnen.
4) Die mit Apples FairPlay-DRM. Diese lassen sich eben nur auf Geräte mit iBooks verwenden, also iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch(?).

Diese hingezüchtete Artenvielfalt lässt Amazons AZW plötzlich gar nicht mehr so schlecht aussehen. Davon gibt es wenigstens keinen "Wildwuchs". Wenn die Anbieter so weitermachen, zerstören sie den Grundgedanken hinter ePub schneller als sich das Konsortium darauf einigen konnte ...

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Old 12-15-2010, 04:12 PM   #5
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Sorry, dieser Tread war beim schreiben plötzlich verschwunden! hab ihn nochmal geschrieben und jetzt gibt es ihn zwei mal. Vielleicht kann man ihn ja löschen.
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Diese hingezüchtete Artenvielfalt lässt Amazons AZW plötzlich gar nicht mehr so schlecht aussehen. Davon gibt es wenigstens keinen "Wildwuchs". Wenn die Anbieter so weitermachen, zerstören sie den Grundgedanken hinter ePub schneller als sich das Konsortium darauf einigen konnte ...
Die Kindle-Welt ist vor allem deutlich einfacher und komfortabler als der ADE-Mist ...
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:29 AM   #7
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Derzeit gibt es quasi vier "ePub-Spezies":

1) Die ohne DRM. Diese laufen auf allen Readern.
2) Die mit ADE Adept-DRM (Adobe Content Server 4). Diese laufen auf allen Readern, die die lizensierte Software von Adobe verwenden.
3) Die mit dem neuen Adept-DRM (derzeit nur die nook-Geräte). Diese lassen sich auch nur auf nook-Geräten öffnen.
4) Die mit Apples FairPlay-DRM. Diese lassen sich eben nur auf Geräte mit iBooks verwenden, also iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch(?).
Gibt's da nicht auch noch ePubs mit eReader DRM? Oder ist das inzwischen tot?
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:41 AM   #8
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Diese hingezüchtete Artenvielfalt lässt Amazons AZW plötzlich gar nicht mehr so schlecht aussehen.
Das sehe ich auch so, gerade weil ich auch mit der Kindle-App auf jeden meiner Androidgeräte Zugang zu meinen Büchern habe, ganz ohne Kindle. Keine Beschränkung der Anzahl der Geräte, unkomplizierter Zugriff auf die eigenen Bücher, kein kompliziertes Autorisieren...

Jetzt fehlt nur noch ein deutscher Kindle-Store.

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Old 12-16-2010, 04:20 AM   #9
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Gibt's da nicht auch noch ePubs mit eReader DRM? Oder ist das inzwischen tot?
Das ist die oben genannte Variante 3.

B&N verwendet eine Kombination aus Name und Passwort (in ihrem Fall die Kreditkartennummer). Das DRM ist von Adobe implementiert, die Art (Name/Nummer) wurde aber schon bei eReader verwendet. Deshalb nennen es manche Leute eReader-DRM.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:40 AM   #10
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2) und 3) ließen sich auch leicht zusammenpacken, wenn sich alle Gerätehersteller, die 2) verwenden endlich darum kümmern würden, 3) einzubauen ... B&N hat darauf meines Wissens nach kein Exklusivrecht.

Und alle "2er-ePub" laufen ja auf der "3er-Umgebung", nur umgekehrt nicht.
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:15 AM   #11
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Das ist die oben genannte Variante 3.

B&N verwendet eine Kombination aus Name und Passwort (in ihrem Fall die Kreditkartennummer). Das DRM ist von Adobe implementiert, die Art (Name/Nummer) wurde aber schon bei eReader verwendet. Deshalb nennen es manche Leute eReader-DRM.
Ah, danke. Ich wusste nicht, dass Adobe das für B&N implementiert hat. Ich dachte, das hätte B&N auf der Basis des alten eReader-DRMs selbst gedengelt.
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Ah, danke. Ich wusste nicht, dass Adobe das für B&N implementiert hat. Ich dachte, das hätte B&N auf der Basis des alten eReader-DRMs selbst gedengelt.
B&N lässt grundsätzlich auswärts dengeln.
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