Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-30-2013, 03:46 PM   #151
SeaKing
Frequent Flier
SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
SeaKing's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,282
Karma: 2058993297
Join Date: Oct 2011
Device: KB kindle aboard, Galx Tab 7.0 Plus, trying out Droid 1 as mini-tab
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdfry View Post
I understand that they aren't going to go broke overnight, but that doesn't mean they won't in the future. Google does come up with some interesting ideas.
I have been wondering how much stock Apple has bought back to help maintain the price.
SeaKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 03:57 PM   #152
porkupan
Fanatic
porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
porkupan's Avatar
 
Posts: 556
Karma: 1057213
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: North Eastern U.S.
Device: Sony Reader
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaKing View Post
I have been wondering how much stock Apple has bought back to help maintain the price.
And I have been wondering if you were wondering because you really know something, or because you just desperately want to badmouth Apple. And I do suspect the latter.
porkupan is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 01-30-2013, 04:16 PM   #153
murraypaul
Interested Bystander
murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.murraypaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 3,725
Karma: 19728152
Join Date: Jun 2008
Device: Note 4, Kobo One
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaKing View Post
I have been wondering how much stock Apple has bought back to help maintain the price.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012...e-Program.html
Quote:
CUPERTINO, California—March 19, 2012—Apple® today announced plans to initiate a dividend and share repurchase program commencing later this year.
[...]
Additionally, the Company’s Board of Directors has authorized a $10 billion share repurchase program commencing in the Company’s fiscal 2013, which begins on September 30, 2012. The repurchase program is expected to be executed over three years, with the primary objective of neutralizing the impact of dilution from future employee equity grants and employee stock purchase programs.
murraypaul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 04:36 PM   #154
fjtorres
Grand Sorcerer
fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 11,732
Karma: 128354696
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 26 kly from Sgr A*
Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdfry View Post
Google does come up with some interesting ideas.
Indeed.
But interesting doesn't mean revenue-generating.
Or even "finished product".
They dabble a lot but fully commit to very little.
They can afford it but it is a rather undisciplined way to spend their ad money bounty.
fjtorres is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 04:40 PM   #155
DuckieTigger
Wizard
DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DuckieTigger's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,742
Karma: 246906703
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkupan View Post
And I have been wondering if you were wondering because you really know something, or because you just desperately want to badmouth Apple. And I do suspect the latter.
What is so bad about going private?
DuckieTigger is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 01-30-2013, 04:49 PM   #156
porkupan
Fanatic
porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.porkupan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
porkupan's Avatar
 
Posts: 556
Karma: 1057213
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: North Eastern U.S.
Device: Sony Reader
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieTigger View Post
What is so bad about going private?
Nothing. But claiming that the reason why AAPL stock is still "at the heights" of $450/share and not in some dumpster (where it perhaps belongs) is that Apple has been busy propping it up via some quiet stock repurchases doesn't go beyond my definition of badmouthing.

If you want to speculate that Apple is going private, go ahead. If that were the case, I would expect AAPL stock to be twice the value it is today.
porkupan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 04:59 PM   #157
DuckieTigger
Wizard
DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DuckieTigger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DuckieTigger's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,742
Karma: 246906703
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkupan View Post
But claiming that the reason why AAPL stock is still "at the heights" of $450/share and not in some dumpster (where it perhaps belongs) is that Apple has been busy propping it up via some quiet stock repurchases doesn't go beyond my definition of badmouthing.
I read "maintain" in SeaKings post. That goes both ways in my book. Not to prevent it from falling is one way, so not to appear weak. Not to let it go unrealistically high again is the other positive effect. Even if one does not like Apple, it is still a smart way of removing hype out of the question.

If you prevent going unrealistically high prevents a deep fall afterwards.
DuckieTigger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 05:08 PM   #158
Penforhire
Wizard
Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Penforhire ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,230
Karma: 7145404
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southern California
Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+
C'mon guys, AAPL's market cap today (at its depressed price) is $429B. Even they do not have nearly that much money lying around.
Penforhire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 07:35 PM   #159
HansTWN
Wizard
HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,538
Karma: 264065402
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Taiwan
Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penforhire View Post
C'mon guys, AAPL's market cap today (at its depressed price) is $429B. Even they do not have nearly that much money lying around.
Yes, just dropped to number two a few days ago, as Exxon again became the world's biggest company.

But I wouldn't call Apple's current price "depressed", more like "still inflated, but getting closer to a realistic level".

Last edited by HansTWN; 01-30-2013 at 07:38 PM.
HansTWN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 09:21 PM   #160
fjtorres
Grand Sorcerer
fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 11,732
Karma: 128354696
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 26 kly from Sgr A*
Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by HansTWN View Post
But I wouldn't call Apple's current price "depressed", more like "still inflated, but getting closer to a realistic level".
Ding! Ding! Ding!

BTW, stock repurchases equal to employee stock options is a common gimmick to (gasp!) reduce employee tax bills.

(If they gave the bonus to the employees as money it gets taxed as income. If they get stock options at very low price, the employees get the bulk of the value taxed lower, as a capital gain, when they sell the stock.)

So instead of giving the bonus in cash, they give them stock and then buy it back at market price. Sharehoders don't get their equity diluted, the employees get a few more nickels to rub together and the taxman grinds the teeth: "Curses! Foiled again!"
fjtorres is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 09:46 PM   #161
HansTWN
Wizard
HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HansTWN ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 4,538
Karma: 264065402
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Taiwan
Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by fjtorres View Post
Ding! Ding! Ding!

BTW, stock repurchases equal to employee stock options is a common gimmick to (gasp!) reduce employee tax bills.

(If they gave the bonus to the employees as money it gets taxed as income. If they get stock options at very low price, the employees get the bulk of the value taxed lower, as a capital gain, when they sell the stock.)

So instead of giving the bonus in cash, they give them stock and then buy it back at market price. Sharehoders don't get their equity diluted, the employees get a few more nickels to rub together and the taxman grinds the teeth: "Curses! Foiled again!"
Oh no! Didn't you realize that for most Europeans legally lowering your tax bill (even if it is 75% like in France now) is an offense 100 times more despicable than cold blooded murder?
HansTWN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 12:18 AM   #162
fjtorres
Grand Sorcerer
fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.fjtorres ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 11,732
Karma: 128354696
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 26 kly from Sgr A*
Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by HansTWN View Post
Oh no! Didn't you realize that for most Europeans legally lowering your tax bill (even if it is 75% like in France now) is an offense 100 times more despicable than cold blooded murder?
I'm aware of it.
(shrug)
They're entitled to their opinions and their social contract.
Just as they are entitled to move to belgium or pick up a russian passport.
(I happen to agree with Von Hayek. Let's leave it at that.)
fjtorres is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 09:44 AM   #163
SeaKing
Frequent Flier
SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
SeaKing's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,282
Karma: 2058993297
Join Date: Oct 2011
Device: KB kindle aboard, Galx Tab 7.0 Plus, trying out Droid 1 as mini-tab
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkupan View Post
And I have been wondering if you were wondering because you really know something, or because you just desperately want to badmouth Apple. And I do suspect the latter.
You seem a little sensitive on that point. Is it because you know something or is it something more "desperate" to use your own word?

By the way see Murray Paul's post about this right below yours.
SeaKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 09:48 AM   #164
SeaKing
Frequent Flier
SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.SeaKing ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
SeaKing's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,282
Karma: 2058993297
Join Date: Oct 2011
Device: KB kindle aboard, Galx Tab 7.0 Plus, trying out Droid 1 as mini-tab
Quote:
Originally Posted by HansTWN View Post
Oh no! Didn't you realize that for most Europeans legally lowering your tax bill (even if it is 75% like in France now) is an offense 100 times more despicable than cold blooded murder?

These days that kind of European thinking is also popular in San Diego.
SeaKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 11:50 AM   #165
afv011
Captain Penguin
afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.afv011 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
afv011's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,944
Karma: 2077653593
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Nook Glowlight
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkupan View Post
Nothing. But claiming that the reason why AAPL stock is still "at the heights" of $450/share and not in some dumpster (where it perhaps belongs) is that Apple has been busy propping it up via some quiet stock repurchases doesn't go beyond my definition of badmouthing.

If you want to speculate that Apple is going private, go ahead. If that were the case, I would expect AAPL stock to be twice the value it is today.
Can you show me where SeaKing said so? No? Thought so.
afv011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why is Amazon the only company... Frankr General Discussions 15 07-30-2010 02:14 AM
Seriously thoughtful what satellite company do you have? kindlekitten Lounge 5 12-14-2009 09:02 PM
Broken PRS-505; any place to buy chrome bottom piece? Or anyone with broken 505? erikk Sony Reader 1 12-09-2009 06:51 PM
Broken Ipod works Fine! except that its broken Andybaby Lounge 1 06-04-2009 02:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:31 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.