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I'm very glad to hear that the paper industry in Europe is using replanted trees, rather than chopping down the few remaining forests, but managing a woodlot for paper production can't really be equated to conserving forest. |
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09-13-2007, 02:26 PM | #63 |
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If you're talking of ecosystems Neko, you are right. But now we need something else from forests, CO2 fixing. It's been shown that at a certain point in a tree's life it fixes less CO2 than younger trees. Its a tough balance out there!
As for trees being cut, books are only a very tiny part of them. Most of them are used for boxes, wrapping and office paper. |
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09-13-2007, 04:37 PM | #65 |
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I have to say, it's nice to see what sort of looks you get when you are reading some erotic novel.
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09-14-2007, 02:55 AM | #66 | |
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09-14-2007, 08:47 AM | #67 |
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I don't agree that there are forests that are thought of as worthless. Here in Canada, all forests 'within reach' have been staked and estimated. In some regions individual trees have been identified and been bought alive to be harvested when time comes(not necessarily for paper production). Paper producing forests are now mapped from cold dwarfed old growth stock; those trees are barely 6" diameter and over 400 years old! They even harvest cliff growing stock! The governments even subsidizes those companies for their road building to reach paper crops.
What is now being replanted is usually of paper making species like spruce. All else is out of the question, this way preventing any kind of ecologic balance. And they cry out when some blight destroys whole tracts of wood! |
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Last I checked, satellite imagery indicated that there was more rain forest than there used to be (it grows so fast, you see, that it's hard to keep it cleared, and it makes lousy farm land in the first place). Certainly, the northeast section of the U.S. has returned a lot of previous farmland to wooded area.
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They should plant reader trees in orchards instead.
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If you were able to see it from satelite I doubt it. The majority of the land in the US is undeveloped and owned by the state or federal goverment.
It's just sad to see the state our economic industry has fallen to. I remember a time when a logging company could pay a few thousand dollars to some officials reelection campaign and in exchange get free reign to clearcut thousands of acres of national parks. My tax dollars would even be put to good use to build logging roads to facilitate such, hundreds of people would be employed, and fresh free newspaper would be delivered to line my birdcage. It's sad to see foreign companies undercutting even this American institution. |
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Well, the satellite remark related to rainforests, specifically, Amazon Rainforests, which would be a bit outside the purview of the US Forestry Service.
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I think I heard somewhere that you could, but I don't recall any particulars. You can certainly make it out of hemp, though.
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