09-12-2013, 07:42 PM | #31 |
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I don't really think corruption is often involved, just a particular form of elitism. If it costs more it must be better, and even if it is not better, I am not going to teach a course based on cheap textbooks. How would that look to the world. If they want to take my course they can pay through the nose.
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09-13-2013, 03:18 AM | #32 |
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Agree that the cost of college textbooks is ridiculous, and the most scandalous thing for me is that the more basic the material, the more outrageous the price in relative terms: for "principles of..." books, of which there are zillions, prices charted run well into the £40-50 in the UK, which is not justified in the vast majority of cases.
But as somebody else said, publishers offer a wealth of other accessory services to teachers (from class management to test banks and so on) that as a teacher of 300+ students you may be tempted to indulge in. Some people feel extremely strongly against falling for these inducements because of the large costs they impose, but if you add that many students, especially in their first or second year, resent not having "the" textbook and being directed to a mixture of lecture notes, material in the library and/or publicly available on the web, etc, sadly it is not surprising that teachers may feel like going along with this massive rip off. I think part of the reason harks back to the change of the way education is viewed: students become more and more customers that expects a service. As the real value of the education received becomes clear to most students only after they have left, to keep them happy while they are in, many Universities bend over backwards to enhance the so called student experience, and I am afraid that keeping them entertained with courses offering all sorts of bells and whistles is one of the consequences. Whether or not this has a real effect on education is a different matter: there was a recent study (I'll look for the reference later) where students of more boring, sterner lecturers on average performed better than students of more engaging, lively ones... |
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Given that, the first year or two of university is often a transitionary period. Course textbooks have to be more detailed because students have to go back to cover materials that are not taught in class. Ideally students would seek out that information on their own, but it takes time to build up that work ethic. |
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I always try to select a course reader with a "without readings" version since that is generally cheaper. As long as my students come prepared for class, it makes no different to me how they acquired the books or readings. Our bookstore will only order enough books for 80% of the students in a class since they anticipate that some students will purchase their books elsewhere. The publishers charge a "restocking" fee for returned books, so the bookstore manager dislikes purchasing more than are needed. Of course, this practice means that I have to push my lessons back by a week because ~6 students will be waiting for their books to arrive from Amazon. |
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In some cases, the differences between editions can be as minor as a word changed in the title or switching between hardback and paperback. In that case, I will write "ANY EDITION!!!!" on the acquisition form and hope for the best. |
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I think you can't talk about the cost of college textbooks without talking about the cost of college itself:
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