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04-30-2008, 05:48 PM | #32 | |
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If a book is in the public domain in Canada but not in the US I also shouldn't be downloading it, right? So just because a book is on this site, and is legal for the site to distribute it, doesn't mean it's legal for everyone to download it. Right? All this could go on the copyright page. Last edited by cmbs; 04-30-2008 at 05:55 PM. |
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04-30-2008, 07:30 PM | #34 | |
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Totally agree. The copyright page should be prominently shown (eg., a big link and/or a disclaimer from the download pages.) MR should probably use some legal advise from folks at PG-Canada. Canada's public domain follows the life+50 rule. BUT... which editionscan you use? can you use a 2008 edition of Shakespeare's Hamlet? do you have any proof of which edition you have used? (perhaps you should better to). It should probably be a good idea to centralize the uploading process or at least having someone to check every single new item for copyright status. Next to the name/title there should be a born-death date. MR must, indeed, take in consideration that all it takes to shut down the website is having one protected item in the catalog. |
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Since the overwhelming majority of uploads either originate at PG or are distributed under creative common licences, this has not been a significant issue. |
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05-01-2008, 10:29 AM | #36 | |
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"Not copyrighted in the United States". on the download page , and yet MR doesn't make that clear in any of the creations added to its library , or does it ? imho copyright is such a minefield it is easy to get your knickers in a twist with what is and what is not allowable - that's before including specific country definitions . and of course much of copyright law appears to pre-date internet days .. |
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No, it doesn't. This is a world-wide site and it's very much the responsibility of the downloader to ensure that what they are downloading is legal for them to download. All the books we host here are in the public domain either in Canada or the United states; it's up to the user to determine what he or she is legally able to download - we can't keep track of what's in the public domain (or not) in dozens of different countries.
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And we certainly can't keep track of what countries our members are in -- let alone the folks who download things without ever joining!
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No - you can download without being a member.
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05-01-2008, 12:09 PM | #41 | |
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We've discussed "closing" it a few times, usually after a batch of "our" books show up on the Darknet somewhere. Would you believe idiots actually take the time to extract them from LRF and repost them? The results of that operation are much worse than the Project Gutenberg originals -- some folks are just dumber than a whole bag of hammers ... oops, wrong thread. Anyway, the consensus is that we don't want to give folks who drop by the impression that they have to join. A surprising number of "guests" still do decide to join, actually, and we like it that way. |
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Yes, you do have to be a member to upload .
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Whew. Glad we got that sorted.
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