Diesel and geographic restrctions

sabredog · 02-07-2010, 03:48 AM

Well, it is getting worse. I tried to pre-order the forthcoming book in the Lost Fleet series to no avail.

I purchased the last book this time last year with no issues and now I am barred from purchase. Penguin is the publisher of The Lost Fleet series.

So how do I get the book? Perhaps I can purchase it from Fictionwise as an EPUB....or failing that turn to the darknet.

Thanks Diesel....not....

drplokta · 02-07-2010, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabredog

Well, it is getting worse. I tried to pre-order the forthcoming book in the Lost Fleet series to no avail.

I purchased the last book this time last year with no issues and now I am barred from purchase. Penguin is the publisher of The Lost Fleet series.

So how do I get the book? Perhaps I can purchase it from Fictionwise as an EPUB....or failing that turn to the darknet.

Thanks Diesel....not....

That should be "Thanks Penguin....not....". Diesel have no control over which books have geographic restrictions, but Penguin could have paid more to buy world rights instead of North American rights.

HarryT · 02-07-2010, 03:51 AM

Don't blame Diesel - blame the publisher; they are the ones who require a bookseller to enforce geographical restrictions.

Blue Tyson · 02-07-2010, 03:52 AM

And the authors, who sign the contracts, of course.

sabredog · 02-07-2010, 03:54 AM

Truth in both posts. Yet I purchased the last book this time last year. Has GR been so rapidly enforced that series are so disrupted?

I want to buy the book. Ready to throw the debit card at it and I cannot. So I must now look at alternatives I guess. I have a VPN but still no go.

Blue Tyson · 02-07-2010, 03:59 AM

Yes, I actually mentioned that on teleread. I was chopped off mid-series in more than one case.

Blue Tyson · 02-07-2010, 04:01 AM

The other parties complicit in this that also deserves brickbats, given it is their actual job to handle deals are the agents.

They deserve more criticism than they have obtained so far.

sabredog · 02-07-2010, 04:03 AM

Hopefully Fictionwise will list it for pre-order and I will try again to purchase the book.

sabredog · 02-07-2010, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Tyson

The other parties complicit in this that also deserves brickbats, given it is their actual job to handle deals are the agents.

They deserve more criticism than they have obtained so far.

Very true. If you are going to sell books to international customers then one would expect that they might well be more vocal about this issue in the interests of their rapidly annoyed customers who then go elsewhere, legitimate or not, to obtain the book they wished to buy.

Solicitous · 02-07-2010, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabredog

Very true. If you are going to sell books to international customers then one would expect that they might well be more vocal about this issue in the interests of their rapidly annoyed customers who then go elsewhere, legitimate or not, to obtain the book they wished to buy.

Or as a minimum specify on the page that the book is only available to certain countries. I wont mention the ebook seller, but I went through an entire process of registering, CC details etc only to be presented with a message when I clicked "Confirm" that the ebook was only available to US and Canada residence.

On the upside I have reduced my list of ebook sellers to buy from by one.

jolfc · 02-07-2010, 05:08 AM

dont bet on fictionwise i have tried to get a penguin book on bob,diseal,fictionwise,powells and a couple more all got the silly restrictions by the publisher and one title i bought and downloaded at bob is now restricted?i am trying to find someone in the u.s.a who can get me $10 of sony gift card and hopefully i can get it at the sony store i have done that before with gift cards i only want $10 then if it wont work not to much money wasted.i am in the u.k.

sabredog · 02-07-2010, 05:12 AM

I did manage to get the latest Starfist book from Diesel which was GR'ed at Fictionwise so it seems to be a bit of a potluck situation.

I tried via Paypal but Diesel seems to be checking country of origin via that as well.

jolfc · 02-07-2010, 05:16 AM

yep.i tried the old paypal option got all the way through transaction then got told restrictions so i could not have it!!!!!

m-reader · 02-07-2010, 05:59 AM

And they wonder what pushes people towards piracy

I'm not saying this is an excuse good enough to turn to the dark side, but it is certainly not sending the right message to the fence-sitters.

Blue Tyson · 02-07-2010, 06:18 AM

Yeah, the only one left probably where you can actually get some books of the DRM new flavour, is.... Amazon. Just a tad ironic.

02-07-2010, 03:48 AM	#1
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	Diesel and geographic restrctions Well, it is getting worse. I tried to pre-order the forthcoming book in the Lost Fleet series to no avail. I purchased the last book this time last year with no issues and now I am barred from purchase. Penguin is the publisher of The Lost Fleet series. So how do I get the book? Perhaps I can purchase it from Fictionwise as an EPUB....or failing that turn to the darknet. Thanks Diesel....not....

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Don't blame Diesel - blame the publisher; they are the ones who require a bookseller to enforce geographical restrictions.

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Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	And the authors, who sign the contracts, of course.

02-07-2010, 03:54 AM	#5
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	Truth in both posts. Yet I purchased the last book this time last year. Has GR been so rapidly enforced that series are so disrupted? I want to buy the book. Ready to throw the debit card at it and I cannot. So I must now look at alternatives I guess. I have a VPN but still no go.

02-07-2010, 03:59 AM	#6
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	Yes, I actually mentioned that on teleread. I was chopped off mid-series in more than one case.

02-07-2010, 04:01 AM	#7
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	The other parties complicit in this that also deserves brickbats, given it is their actual job to handle deals are the agents. They deserve more criticism than they have obtained so far.

02-07-2010, 04:03 AM	#8
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	Hopefully Fictionwise will list it for pre-order and I will try again to purchase the book.

02-07-2010, 05:08 AM	#11
jolfc Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: nook glow light	dont bet on fictionwise i have tried to get a penguin book on bob,diseal,fictionwise,powells and a couple more all got the silly restrictions by the publisher and one title i bought and downloaded at bob is now restricted?i am trying to find someone in the u.s.a who can get me $10 of sony gift card and hopefully i can get it at the sony store i have done that before with gift cards i only want $10 then if it wont work not to much money wasted.i am in the u.k.

02-07-2010, 05:12 AM	#12
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	I did manage to get the latest Starfist book from Diesel which was GR'ed at Fictionwise so it seems to be a bit of a potluck situation. I tried via Paypal but Diesel seems to be checking country of origin via that as well.

02-07-2010, 05:16 AM	#13
jolfc Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: nook glow light	yep.i tried the old paypal option got all the way through transaction then got told restrictions so i could not have it!!!!!

02-07-2010, 05:59 AM	#14
m-reader Guru Posts: 785 Karma: 100000 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony PRS-300. PRS-650, PRS-900, iPad2, Iconia A500, Irex Iliad (sold)	And they wonder what pushes people towards piracy I'm not saying this is an excuse good enough to turn to the dark side, but it is certainly not sending the right message to the fence-sitters.

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02-07-2010, 06:18 AM	#15
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	Yeah, the only one left probably where you can actually get some books of the DRM new flavour, is.... Amazon. Just a tad ironic.