Do you have an issue with the 'lag' between page turning? - Page 3

Fbone · 06-26-2014, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That does seem to be an issue for a small proportion of people, yes. Most people using an eInk reader find that after a few hours' usage, their brain simply filters out the flicker and they stop being consciously aware of it. And of course on modern eInk screens the flicker is much less obtrusive than it was on the older ones.

My PRS-650 has quite a prolonged flicker and refresh than what I see on newer eink devices. They have greatly improved this aspect of ereading.

HarryT · 06-26-2014, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbone

My PRS-650 has quite a prolonged flicker and refresh than what I see on newer eink devices. They have greatly improved this aspect of ereading.

Yes. The latest generation of readers have a new eInk "waveform" (method of refreshing the screen) called "Regal", which dramatically reduces the frequency and visibility of refreshes. I never notice them on my Kindle PW2.

speakingtohe · 06-29-2014, 08:55 PM

I only notice it on the Kobos which can refresh the screen several times in 1/3 to half page chunks. My Aura HD especially seemed to go into this routinely, the mini not so much. Sony and kindle never happened, and I have used the Sonys a lot more. Never happened on my mothers kindle either.

Helen

sakura-panda · 06-30-2014, 02:10 PM

I am not bothered by the lag between page turns. I'm one of those people who don't even notice them and only recognize that they are there because people say so.

It doesn't affect my reading.

I am bothered by the amount of time it takes to to move from screen to screen when I am searching for my next book. I do notice the lag there, but fortunately, my Sony has a good search feature and I can just look up the book I want instead of paging through screens. (My Kindle, on the other hand, takes so long to load up search that I've never even used it; I get impatient waiting for it and end up just paging through every screen and hope that I catch the title on the first pass.)

But my problems are on the home screens; for actual reading, I have no issue at all.

HarryT · 06-30-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sakura-panda

I am bothered by the amount of time it takes to to move from screen to screen when I am searching for my next book. I do notice the lag there, but fortunately, my Sony has a good search feature and I can just look up the book I want instead of paging through screens. (My Kindle, on the other hand, takes so long to load up search that I've never even used it; I get impatient waiting for it and end up just paging through every screen and hope that I catch the title on the first pass.)

Why page through it at all? If you know the book you want to find, you can go straight to it if you're in "Author" or "Title" sort order.

I have my books sorted by author. To go to my Agatha Christie books I just tap the page indicator at the lower right of the home screen, type "chr" in the search box, press "Go", and there I am at Agatha Christie.

crich70 · 06-30-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The page turn speed is nowhere near a second on a modern 6" eInk device; it's a small fraction of a second. It's obviously a little slower on a 9.7" screen because there's a lot more to be refreshed.

But I agree with Jon that a tablet is much more suited for reading textbooks on than an eInk device.

I've heard the same thing. Since textbooks have graphs, photos, etc. included in them they tend to read better on tablets than on an eink reader. Especially as they are likely to be large files I'd think.

crich70 · 06-30-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbone

My PRS-650 has quite a prolonged flicker and refresh than what I see on newer eink devices. They have greatly improved this aspect of ereading.

Could it also possibly be the age of your ereader? I mean everything wears out sooner or later so could part of how long it seems to take be due to the fact that it isn't brand new any longer?

sakura-panda · 07-01-2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Why page through it at all? If you know the book you want to find, you can go straight to it if you're in "Author" or "Title" sort order.

I have my books sorted by author. To go to my Agatha Christie books I just tap the page indicator at the lower right of the home screen, type "chr" in the search box, press "Go", and there I am at Agatha Christie.

The one time I tried to call up the search box on my Kindle (3rd gen, with keyboard), it never came up, so I just don't bother.

It went back into power-saving mode (with the screen saver) without ever coming up. I just don't bother; at least it is responsive when I page through each page.

DDHarriman · 07-06-2014, 05:13 PM

To the question: Do you have an issue with the 'lag' between page turning?

No, not at all.

Ripplinger · 07-06-2014, 06:32 PM

Doesn't bother me at all on either of my readers. While I see the black flash more on the Sony 350 since I set my Kobo Glo to flash only every 50 pages, it's just a fraction of a second slower than the Glo, barely noticeably slower unless you're actually looking to time it.

It's certainly quicker and less interruption to the flow of reading then physically turning the page of a paper book.

JSWolf · 07-06-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbone

My PRS-650 has quite a prolonged flicker and refresh than what I see on newer eink devices. They have greatly improved this aspect of ereading.

On the T1 with the modified reading app, I am using a 10 page turn before the flash. Seems to be OK.

As for my 650, it turns the page fine. But it does flash every page and that does use more battery as the screen has to be updated twice every page turn.

John F · 07-07-2014, 05:48 AM

I forgot how annoying delayed page turns can be. The current ebook I'm reading is taking a long time to change pages, and it is a PITA.

Namekuseijin · 07-07-2014, 05:13 PM

yeah, it's annoying. Specially when you're used to draw little cartoons in the border and flip the pages...

Namekuseijin · 07-07-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Why page through it at all? If you know the book you want to find, you can go straight to it if you're in "Author" or "Title" sort order.

I have my books sorted by author. To go to my Agatha Christie books I just tap the page indicator at the lower right of the home screen, type "chr" in the search box, press "Go", and there I am at Agatha Christie.

why even bother when you can simply "Search"

it's about the same thing as having a buttler search a book for you in your vast and wealthy personal library and readily hand it to you together with tea

HarryT · 07-08-2014, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

why even bother when you can simply "Search"

Because it's quicker than using "Search".

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06-29-2014, 08:55 PM	#33
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	I only notice it on the Kobos which can refresh the screen several times in 1/3 to half page chunks. My Aura HD especially seemed to go into this routinely, the mini not so much. Sony and kindle never happened, and I have used the Sonys a lot more. Never happened on my mothers kindle either. Helen

06-30-2014, 02:10 PM	#34
sakura-panda Guru Posts: 923 Karma: 9558874 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeast Michigan, USA Device: 2017 10.5" iPad Pro (Kobo, NOOK, Kindle, Google Play Books & Scribd)	I am not bothered by the lag between page turns. I'm one of those people who don't even notice them and only recognize that they are there because people say so. It doesn't affect my reading. I am bothered by the amount of time it takes to to move from screen to screen when I am searching for my next book. I do notice the lag there, but fortunately, my Sony has a good search feature and I can just look up the book I want instead of paging through screens. (My Kindle, on the other hand, takes so long to load up search that I've never even used it; I get impatient waiting for it and end up just paging through every screen and hope that I catch the title on the first pass.) But my problems are on the home screens; for actual reading, I have no issue at all.

07-06-2014, 05:13 PM	#39
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	To the question: Do you have an issue with the 'lag' between page turning? No, not at all.

07-06-2014, 06:32 PM	#40
Ripplinger 350 Hoarder Posts: 3,574 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2	Doesn't bother me at all on either of my readers. While I see the black flash more on the Sony 350 since I set my Kobo Glo to flash only every 50 pages, it's just a fraction of a second slower than the Glo, barely noticeably slower unless you're actually looking to time it. It's certainly quicker and less interruption to the flow of reading then physically turning the page of a paper book.

07-07-2014, 05:48 AM	#42
John F Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,157 Karma: 63764653 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Glo HD	I forgot how annoying delayed page turns can be. The current ebook I'm reading is taking a long time to change pages, and it is a PITA.

07-07-2014, 05:13 PM	#43
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	yeah, it's annoying. Specially when you're used to draw little cartoons in the border and flip the pages...

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