06-07-2014, 04:16 AM | #136 | |
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So, yes to an entry cost - I had ccowie in mind (I have not checked, but I think s/he nominated first), whom I did not know before he joined us, but this is probably a very particular case. I agree that eliminating "void" votes would not be too much trouble, perhaps we could have an "enforcer" rotating each month so as not to burden sunsurfer. And I should add: I am very glad we are having this discussion! |
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I have to admit, I was surprised by the popularity of The Thirty-Nine Steps in May. With the analysis given by Bookpossum it makes a little more sense to me now. I think I mentioned in the run-off vote that my continued support of it was more selfish than promotional - it was on my TBR pile. Under Western Eyes looked like a better selection for the Literary Club, and I wasn't really concerned when my selection didn't win because of that.
I don't always read the selection each month if I didn't vote for it and there are reasons for that: availability, cost, lack of interest etc.. If I vote for something that wins I try to slot it into my reading so that I can participate, though there have been one or two occasions in the past where that didn't eventuated despite my intentions. I won't be participating in June, not because I think the selections were bad, but more because I wasn't particularly interested in the theme of the books presented. I recently read All Quiet on the Western Front and although these books take a very different and refreshing perspective, Remarque's was enough for me for the time being. I'll probably still follow the discussion though. As for the proposed changes, I don't have much to add except that I hope whatever we decide does not take away from the aspects of this club that I find valuable - that we're informally exploring the literary landscape together and that we're doing so in an open-minded and mutually respectful way. |
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I can only echo Bookpossum's comment about those of you for whom English is not your first language. Sam Goldwyn's two words apply to my ability to participate in a book club on that basis: im-possible. Quote:
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06-07-2014, 08:19 PM | #141 |
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Yes, I too am delighted that ccowie has joined us and it would be great if we could attract some more genuine members.
I agree with paola and issybird in the way the club selections have broadened my horizons. I have lots of books waiting to be read, but I am always interested to read a work by an author new to me and/or a work that gives me some insight into a culture other than my own. Some I enjoy more than others of course, but I find it is always worthwhile, because I find the discussions we have are an important part of the enriching experience. |
06-08-2014, 08:42 AM | #142 |
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Thanks all. It's very nice to feel welcomed. I sent a few private messages to club members regarding my interest and they were very helpful with providing info regarding how the club operates and then I just jumped right in. I likely should have provided some kind of introduction, but wasn't sure if that was necessary.
I simply love reading, but have suffered from not being able to talk enough with others about what I'm reading. Most of my friends are not readers and I don't have the time for joining reading clubs that actually meet. I've found that over the years I've read primarily prize winners or nominees, based largely on reviews. It's a bad habit because. . . well, it's just a bad habit. I have really appreciated the book suggestions here and the discussions. I've also really appreciated others sending links to author and book backgrounds. This month's winner is a prime example of a book I would never have read were it not for this club. I'm only about 60 pages in, but I'm loving this book and look forward to people's thoughts. By the way, my name is Chris, I'm male, I'm old but still a hockey player (not a great way to develop reading buddies) and most of my career has been dedicated to Restorative Justice work. It's great to be here! |
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Everyone should feel free to jump in! And share as much or as little as they like. That said, it's always nice to feel I "know" someone a bit.
I always enjoy your comments and reviews in the what I'm reading thread. My own feeling about prize winners is that while the more obscure prizes generally go to worthy books, the main prizes seem more to validate "popular" books, especially middle-brow books masquerading as high-brow, and are driven by sales. You've brought to my attention a couple of awards I'd not known, thank you. And you ain't seen nothing yet! We've all seen exponential increases in our TBRs as a result of this club. |
06-10-2014, 12:44 AM | #144 |
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I'll second all of that. My TBR means I have to live until about 150 at the present rate of reduction!
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06-25-2014, 02:14 PM | #146 |
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As the month winds down, so too does our period for changes. I’m going to try to cover everything not yet resolved in this post, which includes the subjects of us asking mods/admins for help, vote restrictions, time periods, and categories for the next twelve months.
First, asking for help. We do have help “behind the scenes”, so to speak, so we’re not an island without “green”. Second, restricting votes. I’ve bandied the pros and cons about and have come to the conclusion of leaving things as they are. I understand the concern - I’ve had it myself - but I don’t think it warrants stricter rules. I could go into a long explanation of the difficulties such a move might engender and if there is enough of a clamour for details then I may, but for the sake of brevity I won’t now as I think most of the reasons are clear enough. Suffice it to say, a good vote in my opinion is an honest single vote cast by someone interested in literary works, after having given consideration to all the options, without private strategy discussion, willing to read along with the club and perhaps hopefully participate in discussion as well. On these counts I hope for the best from all voters. If we have a The Thirty-Nine Steps or an A Diary without Dates win a month despite most regulars voting for another, I think that we can gracefully make it through, though so far that hasn’t happened, and I think as things are now it will happen seldomly if ever. However, the idea is a good one and I will keep the option open to implement at any time should strange days come upon us. Third, time periods. There weren’t enough opinions given on the subject and it’s not something that would affect us for years to come except for possibly seeing a large group of periods continue to receive few votes each time the category comes up. But, that’s enough and so I’ll add my opinion that I’d also prefer those periods streamlined. Seeing as there has been no one clamouring to keep them as they are, we will condense them and so our next Time Period month will include the new option of BCE-1500 to replace the oldest three. (if I remember by then…) And finally, categories for the next twelve months. The poll was a success and now we have six great categories to go with our rotating months. Here is our schedule for the next year: July 2014- Short August 2014- Rotating September 2014- Biographies & Memoirs October 2014- Rotating November 2014- Region December 2014- Rotating January 2015- Poetry February 2015- Rotating March 2015- Contemporary April 2015- Rotating May 2015- Time Period June 2015- Rotating I want to give a warm thanks for the thanks I’ve gotten for running the club and for the support of the club that’s kept it happily chugging along. Here’s to a great year of reading ahead! |
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Sunsurfer, thank you for all the work you have put into the club.
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06-25-2014, 07:04 PM | #148 |
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Yes, thank you very much from me too, sun surfer.
I quite understand your preference for leaving things as they are with the voting. Maybe we just need to be a bit more vigilant about the books that we nominate so that we can feel relaxed about whichever book is selected, even if there is some fly-by voting. And I agree it's a good idea to collapse the early time periods into one. |
11-09-2014, 10:56 PM | #149 |
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A few updates-
Atop the list of official nominations in the first post of the bi-monthly nomination threads is usually written something like "Nominations through post x:". That will now be a clickable link to the last post that the list is updated through, so that one can look at the updated list and then click the link to be taken to posts not yet included, if any. It's only a little addition but I thought it may be helpful (and if I forget to do it in two months time on the next nominations thread someone please remind me! ). Also, whenever I'm not able to update the first post of a nomination thread quickly enough, Bookpossum may jump in and give mini-update posts to help keep things clear, and thanks for the help Bookpossum! |
11-10-2014, 01:43 AM | #150 |
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You are very welcome sun surfer - glad to help.
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